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A Muslim cleric has been arrested on charges of blasphemy and hate speech in Indonesia after his decision to allow women to preach and pray beside men sparked a backlash in the world’s largest Muslim-majority nation.

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[–] oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And a woman couldn't stand in front and face away?

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

And have the men watch her bend way over in rukoo during Salaat? No.

[–] oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and having the women and/or gay men and/or other people attracted to men watching men bend way over in rukoo during Salaat isn't an issue?

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You could raise an argument about anything, but this is about practicality since you still need to pray and minimizing as much distraction as you can.

[–] poplargrove@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You must be unfamiliar with the clothing women usually wear when praying. Its large, draping and for a pervert there is nothing to see.

If the concern really was men looking, Muhammad could have easily mandated women wear clothing that is appropriate for going for the sujood and rukhu instead of completely banning women becoming Imams for or being in mixed gender prayer.

Another simple solution is to have a screen upto the female imam's hips for when she bows down and prostrates, if we insist on the jamaah not having mixed gender.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, another one of those people who talks down to me about my own religion.

Go ahead and show me this mythical clothing you imagined up that is appropriate for sujood and rukoo and isn’t expensive. Muslims can pray anywhere and everywhere and now you’re talking about carrying around some kind of screen? Come on.

[–] poplargrove@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm an exmuslims so I have just as much exposure to Islam and muslim societies as you do.

The clothing I had in mind is a prayer gown called a "telekung" and its used by women in south-east asia. Sort of like an abaya but the headwear is long and goes below the hips. From what Ive seen of mixed gender prayers, many women wrap clothing around their hips to have the same effect for when they bow down.

Wat do women wear when they pray where you live that has you thinking it would be inappropriate if they lead?