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Here in Australia, I'd LOVE to know what infrastructure that could be. We have extensive trains and buses.
It also won't help my hiking group, unless you propose they send buses to the middle of our national forests?
Infrastructure does help a lot of people, BUT, not everyone. Both are needed
There are trains that go to forests in Europe. That's not really a far fetched thing at all. There are busses that can take you to national forests in the US of all places.
Yeah, that's totally a thing and it could be more of a thing if we stopped spending so much money on absolutely the wrong things.
I don't think you do much hiking do you...
For starters, Australia has a much lower density than Europe. And some of the hikes we go on during winter, its generally only us.
There are buses going to some here in Australia too, the touristy ones.
Some of the walks we go to are dead quiet, and sometimes we finish late at night.
Wouldn't work at all here. Sorry. And I suspect you say "Europe" instead of being specific because you're referring to tourist traps
I used to go backpacking a lot, but I haven't been since I got shot. I'm looking forward to bike camping now that I'm no longer in the US.
My group of friends and I rent a bus for our yearly trip. Sometimes with driver, sometimes without when one of has the licence. Where we less, we would rent or borrow a mini-bus. And I'm regularly borrowing and renting vans and cars for trips for just a few.
Personal car ownership can be greatly reduce while still improving personal transportation convenience. Of course, at some point, it might become slightly less convenience for the individual passanger but the benefit for society would still compensate it.
I organise trips almost every week. We do carpool when we can.
It would be too much work, and realistically on a few of them, we need a 4wd to avoid trouble (on one we almost got stuck for the night)