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3D render of old tv set with animated static on its screen, as if tuned to a dead channel.

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[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 72 points 3 months ago

If you put a TV in a Faraday cage that blocked the relevant radio spectrum, would there be no static on it? I expected the answer to be a quick Google, but it wasn't.

[-] badcommandorfilename@lemmy.world 52 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That is a good question, but I suspect if you tried this in real life it would still show static.

  • The waves are amplified with a circuit that attempts to find a signal even if it's very weak (so you can get a picture even if you're close or very far from the tv station)
  • At a certain point, the electromagnetic field from the running TV itself would start to get picked up

I suspect a better thought experiment would be if you just disconnected the input and amplification circuit entirely from the CRT tube, in which case you would probably just get white as the electron beam scans back and forth without any modulation.

[-] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago

Let me turn that around:

Would a TV still show static if you disconnected the input and amplification circuit outside a Faraday cage?

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 8 points 3 months ago

Likely a uniform white picture since the impedance of the input wire is too high for ambient noise on the line to result in any differentiated interlacing.

[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Input yes, amplification no

[-] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

It would just make a dot center screen.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

You'd still see static from the TV itself and any radiation that passed in to the cage. It's not a perfect EM blocking device like TV shows and movies would have you believe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 months ago

Even if the Faraday cage blocked all RF perfectly, the Johnson noise would still produce plenty of static.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Great experiment idea.

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