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[โ€“] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you serious? You've never heard of, for example, France's national front party, who was the their largest party in the EU parliament, headed by Marine Le Pen, and wanted to leave the EU?

Eurosceptic movements were huge all across the union, particularly after the refugee crisis. It's only after Brexit that these movements have fizzled out.

[โ€“] geissi@feddit.de -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm not saying that there aren't other eurosceptic, I just don't agree that they were at "the same level or higher" than in the UK.
As far as I'm aware, France has not left the EU indicating to me that euroscepticism in France has in fact never reached the same level as in the UK.

[โ€“] franglais@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

You should spend more time reading, and less time writing nonsense

[โ€“] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As I stated, the UK ended up being the only one to leave because the others didn't hold referendums.

Your assertion that the UK being the only country to leave means it's the only country that was very Eurosceptic is deeply flawed.

If every country in the EU had held a referendum in 2016, more would've left. The UK wasn't unique in its views on the EU.

Cameron called for the referendum in an attempt to stamp out UKIP, who were weaponising the UK's stupid FPTP voting system. He reasoned that by calling a referendum and winning, UKIP support would collapse, those right wing voters would go back to voting Conservative, the right wing vote wouldn't be split, and they'd be able to stave off Labour, who wouldn't benefit from a splintered right wing vote.

[โ€“] geissi@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it was a cheap throwaway comment but since personal impressions are apparently the most important discussion point today:

My personal opinion is that the very fact that the UK had a referendum and did leave makes their Euroscepticism more real than bad polling results the EU may have had in other countries where that did not happen.

[โ€“] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Euroscepticism is still Euroscepticism, regardless of whether there was a referendum or not.