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Post launch day chat (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by ljdawson@lemmy.world to c/syncforlemmy@lemmy.world

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Afternoon everyone,

I wanted to go over a few points related to pricing, stats and the roadmap

Pricing

Sync for Lemmy is completely free with ads (the same as Sync for Reddit)
You can remove ads in the account picker or drawer for a one time fee of ~$20
Sync Ultra also removes ads but it's not required
I'll be working on regional prices over the coming weeks

There are now 24k installed users up from 100 the previous day!

I'm going to be spending the next few days going through all of the comments / messages and fixing any crashes.

As always thanks for the support and hope you're liking Sync!

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[-] daemonspudguy@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

I don't have 20 dollars to spend on removing ads for a mobile app. I also previously bought Sync for Reddit Pro. Why is the price so much higher for a client to a service that definitionally doesn't have API charges?

[-] GinDaHood@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Lemmy has far fewer users and the previous pricing model was not sustainable for a single developer who makes a living off this app.

[-] Neve8028@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

It's a lot for an app, but it's something I use for a couple hours a day so it was honestly a no brainier for me. The initial cost is higher than a lot of apps but when I look at how many thousands of hours I got out of sync for reddit, the price evens out. Just something to consider.

[+] yuriy@lemmy.world -6 points 10 months ago

did you reply to the wrong person? what you said doesn’t really have any bearing on their thing. they still don’t have $20 to burn, and this is still a whacky price increase that lacks meaningful reasoning.

i’m glad you can reconcile that price to yourself, but the “just something to consider” reads as though this were a logical conclusion everyone should come to, and it simply isn’t.

[-] Neve8028@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Most people spend more money on things that they get less out of. Sure, $20 is a lot compared to many other smartphone apps but you could also easily blow the same amount, if not more, on lunch or something like that. If you like the app and intend on using it, spending $20 to support the dev really isn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. I do understand that with exchange rates, the equivalent to 20 USD in many countries is prohibitively expensive but LJ said he's working on regional pricing.

[-] yuriy@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

ok again you’re addressing different things. i’m not asking for reasoning as to why it’s an understandable amount to pay, i’m looking for an explanation behind the price increase.

the comment you replied to originally was pondering the same thing, and you replied with why you think $20 is worth it. hence my being confused, as it seems you’re just having a different conversation here.

[-] Neve8028@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The price increase is there because enough people can justify paying for it. I'm not sure why it's so confusing for you to understand that. Idk man... If you don't think it's worth it, don't buy it.

[-] yuriy@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

if literally the only justification behind the price hike is “probably people are willing to pay more”, then i guess all the people yelling “greedy dev” aren’t completely baseless.

[-] Neve8028@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Dude's gotta eat. There's less of a market than sync for reddit had.

[-] yuriy@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

i’d suggest he get some supplemental income then. the market for lemmy apps is oversaturated. sync has dedicated fans, but the overall response to this pricing structure should be proof enough that this wasn’t the optimum move.

this could’ve started with a regular ass subscription price to get rid of ads, and a message asking for donations with the intention to add more (maybe even paid) features later on, once sync is established as something more than a big name from the reddit days. instead we get a $100 price tag and an assurance it’ll probably be more worth it later on (i know users don’t have to pay for ultra premium or whatever to use the app, but it’s a matter of principal).

if you’re already a sync user it’s easy to do that on trust, but consider the perspective of someone who’s first real exposure to the app was this brushfire. the amount of vitriol that’s been thrown over comments on the level of “i think $100 is too much” hasn’t exactly given anyone warm fuzzies for sync.

[-] Neve8028@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

this could’ve started with a regular ass subscription price to get rid of ads

There is... Do you even know what you're talking about? The price to remove ads perpetually is $20 with perpetual ultra being $100. Ultra can also be bought for $2/mo or $17(ish?)/year subscriptions.

Look, some people don't have an issue paying money to support the dev and the development of the app. You clearly don't which is totally fine! There are tons of different options available. You don't have to like sync or the pricing model but talking down on people who do is absurdly stupid.

This conversation is so unproductive I'm out.

[-] yuriy@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

dog i said i know there’s other options available, it’s the premise i take issue with here. for a player completely unproven in this space to even have an option to pay $100 is wild.

conversations tend to be nonproductive when you don’t engage with them in a meaningful way.

[-] Neve8028@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

LJ has a 10+ year reputation. Some people want to support him and pay $100 but no one has to. You keep shifting goalposts which is why you think I'm not meaningfully engaging lmao. Alright I'm actually out. I'm just repeating myself at this point.