this post was submitted on 20 Mar 2024
91 points (97.9% liked)

Canada

7113 readers
757 users here now

What's going on Canada?



Communities


🍁 Meta


πŸ—ΊοΈ Provinces / Territories


πŸ™οΈ Cities / Regions


πŸ’ SportsHockey

Football (NFL)

  • List of All Teams: unknown

Football (CFL)

  • List of All Teams: unknown

Baseball

Basketball

Soccer


πŸ’» Universities


πŸ’΅ Finance / Shopping


πŸ—£οΈ Politics


🍁 Social & Culture


Rules

Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca also apply here. See the sidebar on the homepage:

https://lemmy.ca


founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The difficult part is it's tough to actually measure pollution emitted by an entity accurately and fine accordingly.

You can guess how much CO2 output there is from a refinery, sure, and fine them for it, but they will just raise the prices of end products to compensate for it.

In the end gas goes up the same amount but the less affluent people dependant on it won't get rebates. They're money just goes to the corporations anyways in order to pay for the fines.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

how much CO2 output there is from a refinery, sure, and fine them for it, but they will just raise the prices of end products to compensate for it.

If their polluting activities ultimately lead to fewer people buying their products because of that increased cost, maybe that's the financial incentive they need to clean up their act?

Though I don't hold my breath that big corporations are willing (or able) to think beyond next month's profit and instead look a year or 5 into the future sustainability of their enterprise (let alone their negative impacts on the society that they exist in)

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

but they will just raise the prices of end products to compensate for it.

Not if you slap that bullshit down with regulations: Prevent them from pulling that kind of shit and when they find a way around it (because they will) you put a stop to that shit too.

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I can see the argument that implementing the regulatory framework necessary to monitor emissions would be more in our long term interests (and possibly cheaper in the long run) and better than hoping a broad tax will cause bad actors to act better.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 1 points 5 months ago

It needs to be comprehensive or it won't work but there are too many rich assholes controlling greedy politicians