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[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So what do you mean by white collar crime? Does it include killing people or not? Because knowingly bringing about systems that result in the death of people, having a private security contractor that you know will shoot striking workers in your third world countries plantation or ordering a hit on someone are all the same. It is decided that people will die for the companies profit and just because the people who order it dont do it directly themselves, doesn't change the gravity of it.

Also there os myriads of examples from today, where western companies directly or indirectly order people to get killed, just usually in third countries. The idea that a defense company with billions of profits at stake every year doesn't have access to hitmen is unconvincing. Why wouldn't they? Just as the mafia is branching into white business, white business of size are employing criminal means.

If you still think there is some unpenetrable divide, all you need is a private detective agency that has a history of dealing with problems "reliably" in the past.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

So what do you mean by white collar crime?

It's a pretty well defined term.

Does it include killing people or not?

It may mean being responsible for their deaths, but not in a way in which you could be charged for murder.

Also there os myriads of examples from today, where western companies directly or indirectly order people to get killed

Almost always indirectly, and almost never on US soil. Not hiring a hitman to stage a suicide in the US. The kinds of things that US corporations do are the kinds of things they can talk about at board meetings without worrying that they'll go to jail of the meeting is bugged. They can talk about hiring SecuriCo in Zambia to deal with unrest at the mine. Or, they can talk with hiring the law firm Goldman, Burke and Mott to deal with the bad PR from the whistleblower. They're not going to chat about going onto a dark web server to hire a hit man to kill a whistleblower. That's movie stuff, not reality.