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[–] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (19 children)

I think this flies a bit too far in the other direction. China is totalitarian. It is not a democracy. It is also increasingly antagonizing nations abroad. I think it is valid to consider it a threat if you are any other nation, period.

Edit: Kinda like Russia

[–] fishtacos@lemmy.ml -4 points 11 months ago (9 children)

So... No, it's not like Russia at all. But that nuance is too long for me to explain right now. Short answer is that Russia is capitalist, and China is 50/50 capitalist/socialist, depending on definitions, and yeah a lot of nuance.

But China is run by the people, their authoritarian politics keeps their billionaires and induatry in check. Their local politics is a negotiation with the national politics.

And... How exactly is China antagonizing nations abroad? Because a lot of countries are choosing to work with China because they AREN'T antagonizing them as much as America and Europe. So... The reality is the opposite.

[–] UFODivebomb@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Taiwan, a nation and country, is antagonized by China regularly.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If Taiwan is its own nation, they should really specify that in their constitution instead of claiming to be the rightful government of all of China and Mongolia.

[–] UFODivebomb@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That still makes it a nation... That claims to be the rightful government. These are not mutually exclusive haha

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago

That claim is mutually exclusive with Taiwan being "its own nation" distinct from China. It is definitionally its own government, but it claims to be a superset of the nation of China (because of also claiming Mongolia and some smaller territories). Nations are a social construct based on historical group identities, so the PRC is the same nation as the ROC was back when the ROC controlled the mainland. The ROC claims to still be that nation (plus Mongolia) which the PRC currently administers.

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