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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 178 points 4 months ago (26 children)

These companies are wielding way too much power if they are not afraid to act like this in the open. Bring back making the board of executives and C Suites lives hell when a company so much as inconveniences you.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 80 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I want to see fines that have real teeth. No flat rates. Some defined amount per violation, in addition to forfeiture of all revenue derived from or connected to the violation(s). It might be complex to figure out what revenue that applies to inside a large corporation, so to help with the assessment you get a group of government auditors attached to your company for as long as the assessment takes. You pay their wages and provide them with whatever office space &etc they require, and they have a position on your executive board and full oversight of company operations until your debt to society is fully paid.

Regulatory violations should risk ending the company. If you can't run a profitable business legally then you shouldn't be running a business.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Personally, I think it would be easier for all involved to just fine based on a percentage of global annual revenue from the date of the violation to present. If they want personhood so bad, then they can have this too.

Edit for an example: let's say Intel does anticompetitive behavior 15 years ago and a court case finds them liable for damages today. Add up the last 15 years worth of global revenue, and take a percentage of that.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Making it easy is precisely not the point. Having to deal with auditors combing through your accounting records and overseeing your operations until every dollar of illegally gained revenue is accounted for is the point.

The consequence should be onerous, cumbersome and embarrassing for the company.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

I get what you mean, but I prefer massive fines due immediately vs expensive and drawn out processes. Using my example, the very absolute bottom of the barrel Intel's fine could be is a percentage of over $500B (Intel's revenue in 2009 was $35B, multiplied by 15). Even at 1% based on this floor, the fine would be over $5B.

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