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USA leftists in favor of voting for Biden: What other direct action should we do? (lemm.ee)

submitted 4 months ago by anarchost@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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A few things that are accessible within the USA include:

Participating in mutual aid programs
Campaigning on the local level, including for positions like poll watchers
Making your voice heard in community events in general
Joining your local DSA, networking

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A market economy of Worker co-ops has full worker ownership of the Means of Production. This is the basis of Socialism, so it's aptly named. It cannot be Capitalist, as it has no Capitalists. Calling it "private property" is technically correct but betrays the idea that it's Capitalistic.

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Worker co-ops don't necessarily have full worker ownership of the means of production because a worker coop can lease means of production from a third party. It is not socialist. Nor do I mean to suggest it is capitalist. It can't be capitalism as it has no capitalists as you correctly point out. Since you recognize that it is technically correct to say a worker co-op market economy has private property, you recognize

Capitalism ≠ private property @asklemmy

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So by your perspective, if the Workers co-ops cannot lease from a third party, would that be Socialist?

Capitalism does not equal private property, but at the same time liberalism is about Capitalism and individual ownership of property.

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 4 months ago

Perhaps, but there isn't a good reason to place such a restriction on worker co-ops. Worker co-ops shouldn't be forced to buy the entire thing when a segment of its services would do.

Liberals as a group tend to support capitalism. Liberalism as a political philosophy can have implications that claimed adherents don't endorse. After mapping out all the logical implications of liberal principles, it becomes clear that coherent liberalism is anti-capitalist @asklemmy