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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 months ago (15 children)

As an avid user who has primarily used Windows and Linux only for recovery purposes when Windows goes tits up , I've been playing with Nobara and Linux mint on a small 180gb SSD and I'm intimidated by the terminal knowledge that is needed when things don't go right .

I also have a steam deck so technically I've been playing with arch btw

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (12 children)

I’m intimidated by the terminal knowledge that is needed when things don’t go right .

As opposed to the trial and error required when things don't go right on Windows? :)

Let's be honest to ourselves - for more complex problems, we'd be pretty much dead in the water without an internet search engine on either system. However, on Linux, at least you can do failure tree isolation relatively systematic: narrow the issue down, and eventually fix it (or find out it's not fixable, e.g. certain driver compatibility for specific hardware). For windows, it's mostly trial and error until you find "the right solution". Rarely is there any good resource for narrowing your problem down, mostly because of the absence of good advice for terminal commands, or because each windows version shuffles settings around to a new place / config file and holds duplicates and triplicates of settings god-knows-where.

[–] Freeman@lemmings.world -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

An now on a toilet break after trying to fix a permission problem with a local network NAS. I am so fed up with all the (u)mounting, users/groups, chmod/chown and so on, as I am now 3 hours in to it.

Yes, on windows its a trial and error with two ir three checkboxes, done in a few minutes or half an hour. The terminal-knowledge mentionned is definitely a big thing, even with modern distros like Linux Mint I am using right now

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

Yes, on windows its a trial and error with two ir three checkboxes, done in a few minutes or half an hour.

My experience was that I was done in a free minutes or half an hour, but, crucially, the problem wasn't fixed. I had very meager options, and I'd exhausted all of them. In a Linux system, it might take longer, but at least I have the confidence that it can be fixed.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Local Network NAS is not something that the typical user that just scrolls memes on a browser and occasionally edits a document has to face. Setting that up on a Windows machine is just as convoluted on the permission side, but instead of writing neat commands, you have to hunt for buttons on nested upon nested settings dialogs that make no sense and don't follow any logical structure anymore.

[–] Freeman@lemmings.world 0 points 6 months ago

Maybe, havent had the same project on windows. What I had was the need to connect a second monitor/projector, which I can say from experience, was NOT easily done on Linux (I had to mess with stretched monitor, the duplicating didnt work and so on)

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