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We need to exert more pressure on apple and eu to not remove PWAs. Every signature counts, please sign and share EU has already started a preliminary investigation on this http://archive.today/2024.02.26-223134/https://www.ft.com/content/d2f7328c-5851-4f16-8f8d-93f0098b6adc

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[–] fisco@lemmy.ml 89 points 5 months ago (52 children)

Move away from apple products & taste the freedom..

[–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (50 children)

The problem is the only alternative (on phones) is handing over all my data to Google, the world’s largest ad company. I’m not sure that’s better…

Desktop is easy. Install Linux. But on phones, there’s 2 bad realistic choices.

[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

almost every apple user says shit like this while using Gmail, Google docs, and the Google app on their phone and blindly giving Apple their data. let's be real for a sec and not pretend most Apple users give a flying fuck that Google tracks them. if a user truly cared about privacy, they would eventually come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter Apple or Google, privacy means not giving your data to ultra mega corps. so owning an iPhone isn't adequate for privacy either. both googled Android and iOS give your data back to their respective companies. neither are good for your privacy. one day when Apple start changing their tune on privacy policies, Apple fan boys who have put their their whole lives into the apple ecosystem will realize they put all their eggs in one basket.

[–] Fly4aShyGuy@lemmy.one 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Have any evidence that both are the same regarding privacy or just your personal feelings?

one day when Apple start changing their tune on privacy policies

I don't think this is a fair point, unless someone was making the claim that Apple is some benevolent do-good company out of the kindess of their own hearts. No one really makes those claims though, I think most who choose their products for privacy reasons simple thing they are better than the other of the main 2 options, and that like any corporation needs to be watched closely. Just because I chose an Apple device at this time does not mean I advocate that they will always be a better choice for privacy (or any number of characteristics someone may care about when choosing a phone).

almost every apple user says shit like this while using Gmail, Google docs, and the Google app on their phone

Again, just your feelings. Maybe statistically it's even true that most do, but at least there is a choice on these things. I can and do avoid all of these, the only things I load from google are tracking scripts embedded in websites that make it through several layers of blocking.

privacy means not giving your data to ultra mega corps

Not sure this is true, surely there are large corporations that are at least better than others with regard to privacy. It would be especially foolish to assume the inverse of this, that just because a company is small that they will respect privacy or act better.

[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I work as a mobile dev. particularly in ad-tech and security. at my comp, marketers spend 10x more on ads to iOS than Androids in the US. meaning, more advertisers come to us and tell us we want us to target more iOS users with the budget.

and most do consider apple the benevolent do-good company and many do make the claim. Apple uses privacy as marketing and the result is many people blindly trust them and their devices or at least assume the competition is flagrantly out to get them. you seem to have your pulse on things but that's not true for most iPhones users, even those who say they care about privacy.

you also can't say it's my feelings and then say it's probably statistically true at the same time lol it's is true and most people on ios still use Google front and center on their mobile experience.

while you're not sure if that's true, I AM sure it's true. privacy means your data stays with you. period. the best option is not giving people your data to begin with.

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