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I miss the rooting era before google safety net. I rely on a lot of banking apps and other stuffs that require safetynet. Even though they are tricks to hide root and bootloader status, it is pain in the ass. Fuck I can't do whatever I want on my phone right now. If there was no safetynet my phone will be running pixel experience or lineage os.
I have a somewhat similar issue, but not because of rooting.
I want to use F-Droid for some of their apps, and be able to just download apk's.
The problem is that my work uses 'Microsoft Intune' for email access and such. Turns out, if I try to install anything from F-Droid, I get a message like 'Your Admin has blocked access'.
As you can imagine, this made my blood boil, but I actually use my work email and Teams (even though its not mandated to have it on your phone). The work around is to delete my work profile, install the apps, and then recreate, but that doesn't account for updates.
Frustrating
So whatever you install on your personal profile is affecting your work profile? Does that Microsoft intune have admin access?
That I don't know. I know pausing the profile doesn't let me, and turning on USB debugging puts me out of compliance but doesn't let me.
If it's possible, you could try talking to your IT department about this. Intune policies are configurable by the team using them so your IT department could allow your device as you want it if so. Hopefully they would understand the freedom to use your hardware as you see fit is worth the tradeoff of loosening their policies.
I think that Microsoft app has admin access to your phone. Otherwise it won't be possible.
Think you are right.
All I see is the disable option.
I might just delete. If someone messages me when I'm at lunch, it can probably wait
If your work wants you to have mobile messaging/email then they should issue you a work device. I never put work stuff on my personal phone or computer. And I don't put personal stuff on a work device. If I pay for a device I have full control of it.
Always seperate work and personal life & devices
I've been thinking about getting an apple watch just for Apple pay and a cheap iPhone to set it up, since you can use the Apple watch to pay without internet or the iPhone after set up. Then I could root and stuff on my phone without having to rely on safety net anymore for wallets.
Easy, don't rely on banking apps and other stuffs that require safetynets. I've been a client of, like, 6 banks in 2 different countries and never ever encountered one that cared. If one day I will, I'll just leave that bank.
That's not how it works here. Cash is being used less and less. Everything is being done through digital transaction. Not talking about bank transfer, they are actual payment methods which are relatively easy compared to traditional online bank transaction which can be done through website.
I (evidently) didn't say "stop banking", I said "stop banking with asshole banks that require safetynet".