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Reverse psychology? Is he trying to make libs think that Biden has been compromised by Russia, therefore Trump wins, which is actually what Putin wants?
It's just trolling. Next magas will say "he's scared of Trump" and so on.
no one is saying he is scared of Trump there are other reasons he might be less hopeful of a trump win
Sure
Exactly. Putin is really concerned about student loan debt.
What the debt biden has done nothing to help aleviate? I think the most he has done is contenue to delay the payments, but there has been no forigivenss to
Get him some more reps in the House and Senate and maybe debt forgiveness won't be blocked next time.
That will not do anything they are all controled by capital, There will be some new reason some new group of senators or Members of the House who will block it, for some reason, it happens every time. The one real difrence between the 2 parties is reteoric, and the speed of internal decay, and even the second one is becoming less of a distiguishing factor.
Are you sure you're thinking hard enough? Maybe we can help crowdsource ideas. Here's one: another real difference is that Texas and other states are using unwilling women and children as incubators now.
and under whos administration did that become a possibility? that is right Bidens, and we had Obama's term to get a law that also secured a legislative right to abortion, but last I checked we never did because it was more advantagioius to use it as a gun to the head of minorities to vote for them than to help secure the rights of the vary same minorities. I will eat my words if they get a trifecta and then they pass a law giving abortion as a legislative right.
Also may I point out THE first state to give abortion a state constitutional status after Roe was .... Kansas, last I checked ever sense the Red Scare it has been solidly conservitve, infact it got this granted BEFORE Roe fell. Might I also add that during the Biden Administration we have also lost most forms of separation of church and state in funding, IE if you give funding to a private source that is not a curch that means you MUST also offer it to the church. More deportations, more kids in cages, essentialy no responce to Texas flagrantly daring the US to touch them putting death traps in the rio grand, Supporting a genocide, what can generously be described as slaps on the wrist for an inserection that was called "the biggest threat to the [so called] democracy"
Agian, the usual eb and flow is Republicans speed up how bad everything is going, dems get in, they bend over with their lack of a back bone but they slow it down, but do not dare to make anything better at all, and it still gets worse, repeat.
Wow, you're seriously trying to blame a Dem administration for a Repub-appointed SCOTUS majority. I haven't seen that one attempted in a while. What's the reason for being intentionally dishonest there?
Well lets see, Obama let McConal play fast and loose with senate rules, when there was ligitimate argument that his stunt would have allowed Obama to just apoint garland unilateraly. Second, I am not just pointing out the timeing, and 3rd my disgrutlement is that the dems had plenty of time to pass a law that said "The right to an abortion shall not be infringed" but they did not because it was never politicaly convient, it was always better to hold the gun to the minoirties head and say vote for us or you might lose this.
Not only that, but the day it was overturned the Democrats had the House the Senate and the Presidency, they could have gone "OK Scotus, not a constitutional right, then we will make it a legislative one" but instead they decided to use this as a bargoning chip for the election that year, one that failied miserably. so no I give the dems 0 credit on abortion.
I don't think that anywhere near as many people that thought Trump was "compromised" would believe Biden has been. If anything Biden constantly demanding more and more money and arms stockpiles from the US to go to Ukraine is kind of a win for Russia. As it means less money and arms are being kept by the US. It weakens us in money and supplies. The constant cheerleading about standing with Ukraine until the end and all territories are returned, kind of makes it hard to save face and cut off the supply line. Trump being much more prone to impulses and thrives on attention is much more likely to change directions even if people scream at him about it. Just as long as he can be the centre of attention and not really care about the situation.
That being said, Putin is definitely fucking with everyone. It helps create chaos for both parties to constantly be too focused on accusing each other of being "compromised." And the best part is that he doesn't even have to actually do anything other than exist for this to happen.
https://youtu.be/KX2WVIaVUGo?t=23
I would say at least our electorate is smarter than Elmer Fudd, but...
https://youtu.be/MfGVB6xADGo?t=17
(yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath on that)
Nice.
Putin is no one's friend but his own. I could go on but I remember your pro-Ruzzia tirades and it isn't worth arguing with bad faith arguments, you'll learn for yourself eventually when, shocking no one, shills like you outlive your usefulness and get disposed of.
On account of being an enemy of the US, not sapping wealth from developing nations like imperial core countries do, and defending their sovereignty against the US (like with Syria), he's already very much a friend of the Global South.
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Oh, like Wagner Group is doing in Sudan, Central African Republic, Burkina Faso, etc.? Good to know they're not Russian. Or are you gonna tell me it's fake news by the mainstream media?
The global south may feel relieved now, but they are merely trading western colonialism for eastern neo-colonialism. I hope they realize that before they can regret it, like Kenya is starting to with China.
"Only the US has ever committed war crimes and genocide, my side is perfectly clean! I am very smart!"
I didn't say you lived in Russia. I meant "your side" as in, the side you defend. Meaning Russia, in this case, allegedly.
or and here me out here, he is not lieing? just maybe, like you are doing lots of mental gymnastics to get to the point of he is lieing for reverse phycology and doing like a tripple bluff, when accams razer would sugest it is just he means what he says.
Note in no way am I pro Trump ... nor do I want trump to win.
It doesn't exactly take mental gymnastics to think Putin might lie about something if he thinks it'll give him an advantage.
Agian I ask of Trudeau made the same claim, or the Prime Minister of New Zeeland, would you be making the same argument
I'm honestly not sure what you're arguing for. All politicians lie constantly. I'm sure the ones you named also lie frequently. It's all just mind games to confuse people during a war.
For 2., to be successful mostly so, unfortunately.
Agian, is this a universal truth or just in the US system or Liberal democratic system, is it not possible (and I am not saying the Russian Federation is this system I am now asking in hypotheticals) where that would not be the case
What do you even mean by universal truth? In math this makes sense, but not here. You cannot say anything meaningful in this context using such a qualifier. The closest you get to universal truth is that people have some property, unfortunately, so that saying certain things makes you popular because it is what people want to hear, regardless of truth value.
Wouldn't that depend on their particular geopolitical interests, which could be entirely different from those of Russia?
I feel like these questions are so absurd sometimes not because an answer is being sought but because it succeeds at the goal of degrading the quality of conversation.
I am not trying to degrade the conversation, but I know how they usualy go. What I am saying is I feel that there is a fundimental lack of understanding of the geoplolitical interists of russia, and not only that, it would be the simpliler solution to assume that Putin is speaking honestly when he says he would prefer to work with Biden, even if that reasoning is as simple as he thinks biden has a better chance of winning and saying this now will make deplomacy easier in the future. I think it is a bit bold to just jump to the conclusion that because Putin has said X he really means Y, and it feels much more like the world view you subscribe to requries putin and the Russian Federation to want Y so no matter what is being said you will make it so it really means he belives Y.