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[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I appreciate the work you're doing to aid in accessibility. I'm not sure using "unkempt hair" is quite right. I would have thought this is natural afro hair. I don't think the hair description adds to the transcription so is probably better to remove.

[–] Someusernamehuh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (13 children)
[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

From a young age, black kids are told their natural hair is unkempt, and often by white teachers. The view of what is neat hair, and isn't neat hair is very subjective. This constant unconscious, and sometimes conscious bias is not helpful. It's often used as disguised form of discrimination.

I'm not saying this is the case with the original poster and think it was a genuine mistake, but it's something we probably need to move away from.

[–] zahel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bruh. It's a skit. Eric intentionally made his hair messy as part of the "unhinged" character

[–] BornVolcano@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, no, they're right. I mistook a black actor with textured hair for a lighter skinned actor who's hair was made to stand up as an intentional part of the scene. It's easier to tell the racial aspect I overlooked in some of the other sources people gave.

Maybe he changed it a bit for the scene, maybe he didn't, but regardless, wasn't my best call to word it like that. This one's on me.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have no idea. I don't know what it is. The point I made is still valid though. I don't think it adds anything, and it does have concerning implications.

Edit: Additional context:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/25/black-pupils-excluded-hair-discrimination-equality-act https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/63399563

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bro that's bed head I don't care what your hair texture is, he looks like the "Aliens" meme guy intentionally so that he comes across as crazier. Plus the transcription doesn't even mention race, so what's the blind user of this program going to attach to the concept of unkempt hair?

[–] clementineholic@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

so that he comes across as crazier

Are you sure this is the reason? Did he state his reason that way? Or is that your assumption that he wants to look crazier? In a post above @BarackObama@lemmy.world said his reason was because brushing it takes too much time according to interviews. I haven't seen it myself since there's no timestamp, but I'll check it out later.

so what’s the blind user of this program going to attach to the concept of unkempt hair?

The problem isn't with blind users, but sighted users who could read that and associate afro-textured hair like that with being unkempt.

Edit: Found the timestamp in the Eric Andre interview with Larry King about his hair. Here he doesn't say he wants to look crazier. He says that's what his hair looks like when he doesn't brush it. And as I mentioned in another comment, afro-textured hair isn't meant to be either combed or brushed every day because that can cause breakage.

Edit 2: Corrected his Eric Adams to Eric Andre. Woops.

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