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In audio released Friday evening, senators and representatives from Ohio and Michigan revealed the "endgame" is to ban transgender care "for everyone."

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 51 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The slippery slope implies that it's some kind of accident.

They're dragging us kicking and screaming into a ditch.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 16 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Slippery slope implies that allowing the change will mean sliding further and further in the same direction. Intent does not matter.

This is a slippery slope because every time they say something has a limited scope they just keep increasing the scope.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The slippery-ness of the slope is inherently about intent. If the slope is slippery then it isn't their fault for falling down the slope.

This slope isn't slippery. It's a stair case into fascism and they are goose stepping down the steps and dragging us by the hair.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The slippery slope can easily be unintentional, like the fear that giving something up will just naturally lead to other things being given up as a logical extension of the first thing. That is why slippery slopes are often described when making exemptions for certain rights. It is not that someone is intentionally going to expand the exemptions, but that exemptions tend to lead to more and more exemptions as a slippery slope.

This one is intentional. Some slippery slopes are intentional and some are accidental. Intent does not matter.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What do you think "slippery" means? If you slip, it's unintentional. This is not a slippery slope. This is an intentional methodological plan.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Someone can intentionally trick someone onto a slippery slope and grease it up to make the slide faster, like Republicans are doing right now with undermining abortion and LBGTQ+ rights while claiming it isn't a slippery slope.

Where do you get the idea that a slippery slope must be unintentional?

Is someone slipping on a banana peel unintentional if someone drops the peel in front of them? Do you think you might be taking the word 'slippery' a little too literally?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 5 months ago

Republicans aren't tricking us into falling down a slippery slope either, we're just being dragged down the stairs by our hair and they're marching down with us. There's no slipping.

Another important factor of a slippery slope: once you start to slip you can't easily stop. That's not what this is at all. Stopping would be really easy if we weren't being forced down this path.

[–] preach224@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

i disagree - the word sliding can imply a passivity in things that current republican intent certainly counter-indicates.

i’m not generally pulled down slippery slopes against my will, original wording of the phrase aside.

[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But they aren't saying that their efforts have a limited scope. They just admitted their intent.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes, in this case it is intentional. That doesn't mean every slippery slope is intentional, because they can be accidental or intentional. A slippery slope does not imply being accidental, which is what I was responding to.