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In the last 5 to 10 years everything seems to suck: product's and services quality plummeted, everything from homes to cars to food became really expensive, technology stopped to help us to be something designed to f@ck with us and our money, nobody seems to be able to hold a job anymore, everyone is broke. Life seems worse in general.

Why? Did COVID made this happen? How?

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[–] Fog0555@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Doesn't that assume that resources were at one point distributed fairly? If you have all the value, you can devalue everyone else.

[–] Lilweed2@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I think it has to do with different kind of value, some have capital, some have services, they would not work without eachother

[–] Fog0555@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Automation could replace all services, and only property owners would remain.

[–] anarchotaoist@links.hackliberty.org -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
  1. No. Why would it assume that?
  2. How so? The only way I see to have all the value & devalue others is to be an absolute dictator that has enslaved everyone. This of course is not possible in a free market as it is all about private property rights/self ownership.
[–] Fog0555@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
  1. Because if they weren't distributed equally, some people would unfairly have more capital than others, which means a fair trade where people exchange the precise value of an item leaves some people with inherent setbacks.
  2. If I don't own property, then I am forced into wage-slavery, which means I don't have time to myself to innovate or property to innovate. Even if I manage to buy some property, I can innovate some, but larger players with more capital and resources can out-compete me. The more money you have, the longer you can take to turn a profit, and drive others out of business.
[–] anarchotaoist@links.hackliberty.org -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I do not think you understand fairness or value. Life is not fair. You cannot expect it to be. To try to make it fair requires the initiation of force against another. The happenstance of an unfair life is different to the deliberate application of force to create what one thinks should be fair. Precise value??? All value is subjective! Setbacks? Every exchange that occurs happens due to the exchange making both parties life better - otherwise the exchange would not occur. You are viewing the world as a glass half empty rather than half full! Wage-slavery? There is not such thing! You own property - always! You own your body! Other peoples ability to generate wealth is something you have no right to interfere with just as much as they have no right to interfere with your body. You may not like the terms of contract but that is simply because you have no better option and you need to upskill. Innovate? If you are working you are gaining skills. Are you showing your worth or just doing the acceptable minimum to justify your employment? If the game is unfair - it is because the system (govenment) applies the law unfairly - not because others create value.

[–] Fog0555@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The question is not "Is life fair?", but rather "Should we pursue fairness?"

[–] anarchotaoist@links.hackliberty.org 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No. We should pursue liberty (the absence of coercion), peace, prosperity and happiness. We should defend self-ownership/private property.

[–] Fog0555@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Defending private property is coercion for those who don't own property.

[–] anarchotaoist@links.hackliberty.org -1 points 10 months ago

That makes no sense. Particularly as we all own property! We own ourselves - innate property!