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This is kind of stupid tbh. Margot and Greta are NOT competing against Ryan. They're competing against other females. This is because of this thing called "categories".
Ryan getting nominated has NOTHING to do with this. It's not like Ryan got nominated but they didn't because he took their place.
This is happening because of the absolute flood of female centric characters and movies that came out recently. There's too much competition. And much to the "feminists" dismay, Barbie is actually mid compared to the other movies and actresses.
There was 1 female director nominated.
What percentage of directors are female?
I feel like it should be 50% as they make up just over half of the US population.
I could only quickly get statistics for 2019.
https://womenandhollywood.com/resources/statistics/
On the top 100 grossing films of 2019, women represented:
10.7% of directors 19.4% of writers 24.3% of producers 70.4% of casting directors
But it's not 50%. The goal of equity and equality is laudable, but it doesn't reflect reality
Right, but it is important to understand the origin of those differences.
They could be prohibition, straight discrimination, social stigma, culture or personal preference. And these are usually linked together and evolve over time. Once prohibition is abolished, discrimination begins. Once discrimination is abolished, social stigma remains.... It's like decaying radioactive elements.
But yeha, if there are 10% female directors and 10% of the winners were female, sounds like there's no discrimination there. Anyways, even if percentages don't match it's important to go in and check if the decisions were fair. What if the 10% of female directors are really really bad for the movies released that year?
Too many variables. Things like these require statistical analysis, social analysis, artistic analysis... Pretty complex. I don't know.
Cool, it sounded like you were spouting idealist nonsense without recognizing it, but that's not the case, so fuck yeah! Let's celebrate underrepresented artistic influence!
Ok. Which directors do you think were snubbed?
I'm responding to op saying greta was beat out by other females. This is factually wrong since there's only one other female director.
Awesome, thanks for making that clear. Now, which other females do you think should've been nomimated? Because if there aren't any, she was simply beat out by other directors.
I think Greta should have been nominated. I don't really understand what point you are trying to make. Did you read the original comment where women are getting passed over but men are getting congratulated for theirs and it's mimicking the Barbie storyline?
They literally compete in different categories and an actress from Barbie did get nominated. The ones that didn't weren't snubbed, other women got their place because they were better. Simple as that.
It feels like you're saying there should be more. I have no idea who's been nominated, nor do I know most of the films that came out last year, so I'm out of the loop and would like to know if you have any female director movies you'd recommend in place of who's been nominated.
Barbie was a cultural phenomenon so I would say Greta should at least be nominated. Openheimer was an ok movie in my eyes I didn't see any of the others. I don't personally think Barbie was a great movie not a bad movie but more like a good movie. The fact it gave a voice to so many women should mean something.
You said it, it was a cultural phenomenom, not a great movie. Those are two very separate, very different things. That does not mean that the director of the movie was great. It's more closely related to what Barbie already means (socially) and the marketing campaign.
But why was openheimer nominated, why was Ryan gosling nominated, why were so many movies nominated, not because they're great acting or writing or movies but because the impact they have on society.
Beause it's a better movie. Because he was better than other male actors in movies from 2023. That last one I'm not sure what you're talking about. Which movie was nominated because of its "social impact"?
Oppenheimer is a great movie, though, that's why it was nominated.