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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 73 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

for context, that's 0.04% of the profits Amazon earned in France alone (€9B) in 2022.

[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Which if my math is correct, at an average US household income of $75k that is equivalent to a whopping $30.

As always, when the fine is less than the extra profits earned by breaking the law that's just the cost of doing business. Until these fines are like 10x+ the extra profits earned this is going to be the normal.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've always advocated for fines to be assessed as a percentage of global annual revenue.

"Oh, your global revenue was $100B? That will be $1b please."

[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

EU takes 10% of the profits if rules like GDPR and other Digital acts are breached.

But only at the first offence. The second time they take 20%.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

its €10M or 2% turnover whichever is higher, doubling for more sever infringements. Fining based on turnover is the way to go as it eliminates wriggling out of fines and makes them hurt.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The fines need to be large enough to upset the shareholders if they are going to have any effect.

[–] jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 7 months ago

I'd say that the board members also have to have some personal liability (criminal of course, but also limited financial liability and a temporary or permanent ban on serving on any board or executive (legally responsible) position, depending on circumstances. Incentives must be aligned, and not something that they can justify as a cost of doing business.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's much less than paying for a parking ticket for a private citizen (cost relative to income).

Basically a mockery of the entire thing.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 6 points 7 months ago

MAKE FINES HURT.