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[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Having worked in the industry at that time, there were 2 main reasons they did it like that

  • batteries were quite unreliable and failed often
  • mfgrs couldn't afford to have one year warranties and send out field replacement units for a battery

And the reasons they stopped doing it..

  • batteries got better
  • battery contact failure was higher than battery failure.
  • replaceable batteries compromise waterproofing

I think they should still be replacible, but they should have better connectors that are sealed off from the rest of the device. It costs a tiny bit more to do that engineering though.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

battery contact failure was higher than battery failure.

quite a feat, only doable if you try to make it fail

replaceable batteries compromise waterproofing

this is in no way true, and is a bold face industry lie. There is no shortage of water PROOF and not just resistant electronic equipment that feature replaceable batteries.

the reason replaceable batteries were removed is entirely due to planned obsolescence.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It has more to do with size than anything. A waterproof phone with a removable battery is going to be bulkier.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

not really, the phones we have are basically all water-resistant, so they definitely aren't waterproof (makes you wonder just why this argument is repeated so much)

and it doesn't require something to be bulkier to make it waterproof, unless you are deep sea diving, but I think at the point where you require over $100,000 in gear to reach said point, I don't think a deep sea diving case is out of the budget.

case n' point, watches

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Look dude, I made my position clear. Just speaking what I've seen in the industry while repairing phones.

If you don't want to believe contacts are a point of failure, I'm not sure what to tell you.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

the most common failure on a Bosh SPS drill is the actuator arm for the pounding motion, and this is commonly shared among several power tool brands with SPS drills.

you could make the argument that these parts just fail more often, and if you go by what broke, that would make you think it's a reasonable conclusion.

Until I tell you that said actuator arm is made of injection mold plastic and all other parts of this assembly are made of steel. So in reality, this part that just happens to break more often is doing so because it was meant to, we are more than capable of creating contact terminals that don't break as easily

[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

mfgrs

Muthafuggrs? Or what's that supposed to be?

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 5 points 9 months ago

Basically. Manufacturers