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[–] Lammy@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As if that is the biggest problem with Russia right now

[–] nitefox@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

LGBT laws and talks are pulled out by the right/far-right when there are shitstorms incoming. It’s literally a giant “Press in case of emergency” button, alongside immigration, etc

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

To distract people from more important issues, you mean?

[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Yes.

The Hungarian anti-LGBT law was made in response of financial troubles, labor safety issues, dismantling of the public education and healthcare system, record corruption, the Kaleta case (in which a Hungarian diplomat only received a pitiful fine for CSEM possession, while being in Peru), and the real threats children face from the low age of consent of 14.

[–] birdcat@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Yea think so. A society that always talks about the issues of the right, is a society where the right always wins.

[–] DreamerOfImprobableDreams@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no "more important issue" than protecting fundamental human rights, including fundamental human rights of LGBTQ+ people.

[–] nitefox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

More like pulling this crap that would have people protesting in the streets in peacetime at wartime when people have bigger things to worry about.

[–] DreamerOfImprobableDreams@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is completely false, going after trans people was literally one of the first thing the Nazis did.

LGBTQ+ people aren't a "distraction" from "more important issues", they are real human beings with real lives who fascists love to fuck with for no other reason than they're bullies.

[–] nitefox@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Dude, LGBT isn’t just “trans people”. nobody is arguing that LGBT ppl aren’t human beings with feelings, but they are easy scapegoats (alongside immigrants etc) to distract people from real problems… unless you consider LGBT people or immigrants or whatever to be problems at all, which are not hence the “distraction”; I wouldn’t be surprised if Putin personally didn’t give a fuck about lgbt people

Nazi germany is a very poor example for your point since Jews, LGBT etc were easy scapegoats for the terrible situations they were in after WW1. You don’t even have to go that far either, look at US, Italy etc that have gone (far-)right and the discussion is always about immigration, LGBT people and other stuff that makes no sense and is either a very small problem or not a problem at all

tldr: governments use easy answer to redirect people’s anger towards made-up problems, so that they don’t really think how fucked they are

[–] uniqueid198x@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Scapegoating isn't the "oh shit" emergency tactic of the right tho, it's the first move they play.

Agreed completely. How is it possible people still don't realize that with fascists, the cruelty is the point? Torturing minorities isn't a distraction, it's the goal.

[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Lammy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The nukes are their primary strength

[–] Hextic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As if they work. I'll take the bet none of em are functional. Not with Russia's extreme corruption.

[–] akippnn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This mentality is basically "fuck diplomacy, go monke"

[–] Lammy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Classic throwback meme reference

[–] Lammy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I definitely don’t want to take that bet