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The Irish government wants to pass a law that could see you or your loved ones jailed for possession of memes, cartoons or any content that could be deemed "hateful". (lemmy.ml)

submitted 7 months ago by SecurityPro@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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The Bill includes no definition of hate and is wide open to abuse by bad actors. Defend free speech – say no to this legislation, and any legislation of is kind... Anywhere!

https://x.com/FreeSpeechIre/status/1746854766032846910?t=g8nSn9maY3dX0v76oHa9Cg&s=09[https://x.com/FreeSpeechIre/status/1746854766032846910?t=g8nSn9maY3dX0v76oHa9Cg&s=09](url)

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 46 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's too bad you couldn't find a link to somewhere other than x.com. Just going by the headline though, this could lead to great new career opportunities for Irish black market contraband meme dealers.

[–] SheeEttin@programming.dev 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4nj2xzrz83o

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Freedom of expression is a protected right under both the Irish constitution and the European Convention on Human Rights.

So not at all what the post title claims?

[–] SecurityPro@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Freedom of expression?

[https://extra.ie/2021/02/21/news/irish-news/gardai-tell-woman-to-take-down-social-media-post-after-she-identifies-herself-as-child-abuse-victim(url) https://extra.ie/2021/02/21/news/irish-news/gardai-tell-woman-to-take-down-social-media-post-after-she-identifies-herself-as-child-abuse-victim

[–] AutomaticJack@beehaw.org 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thats a completely different scenario and frankly, you're being dishonest putting that forward as an example of freedom of expression being blocked.

[–] SecurityPro@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is not freedom of expression if the police can demand that you take down or alter a social media post.

[–] AutomaticJack@beehaw.org 4 points 7 months ago

It's a well intentioned law to protect child sex abuse victims and the law needs updating to cover this scenario. I think it's more an example of the ineptitude of the Irish government than anything.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Freedom of expression generally doesn't mean you can say anything without limitation

[–] SecurityPro@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So an adult victim of a crime can't admit that they were the victim of a crime?

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

I'm not familiar with the laws of Ireland, but considering that article you linked, I guess I'm that specific instance, the answer is "No".

They still have freedom of expression.