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[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Uhhhhh.

Anyone who has been to a developing country (in my case: the Philippines) vs USA will laugh at what USA citizens think of corruption.

You got Fucking assassinations paid for by Filipino government likely to cover up political rivals. Open corruption in the Police where you can just pay them to get out of parking tickets or even criminal acts. Etc etc.

Don't be so much of a drama queen. USA is fine. There are entire countries of people trying to leave their country to enter USA to escape truly awful corruption issues. Phillipines is one corrupt example (especially if your family was politically on the wrong side of the Marcos family or whatever)

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Don’t be so much of a drama queen. USA is fine.

Better than some places? Sure I'll grant you that.

Fine? Absolutely not.

Horrific levels of violence, 22% of the worlds prison population, massive drug abuse issues and a failing health care system.

I don't know a single person from Australia who is remotely interested in immigrating to the US, while I know plenty of Americans keen to live here.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The thing is, in the US everything is 10x bigger. There's no corrupt single cops. The whole police establishment is a huge massive overpaid problem that kills people and go one unpunished. There's no political bickering and assassinations in the country, they do it everywhere else in the world, and still receive global forgiveness because you just can't sanction the US. Richest country in the world and yet has the biggest share of prisoners, homeless, personal debt. Highly educated, but by far the most school shootings.

The US isn't "fine". You can't see past the superficial bling because it's a rich country. It's a really twisted country.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The US isn’t “fine”. You can’t see past the superficial bling because it’s a rich country. It’s a really twisted country.

And that shit exists in the Philippines but is at least 100x worse. You likely don't understand because you've never been to a place like that.

And note: Philippines is actually a lot better than other countries as well. Truly 3rd world countries like Congo care even less about their citizens. Such states are closer to something like a Civil War or maybe even Crime-lord / Mafia ring, where militia get military weapons from Russia or something and no one cares to listen to the official government anymore because the literal crime lords have more physical power.

Richest country in the world and yet has the biggest share of prisoners, homeless, personal debt. Highly educated, but by far the most school shootings.

USA has one of the best bankruptcy laws meaning debt isn't actually punishing here. There's at least schools in existence here... free schools mind you... and everyone's allowed. There's no segregation system or class system anymore so everyone (including women) are allowed to go through the public school system. Etc. etc. etc.

If you ever get into significant debt that you can't pay it off? File for bankruptcy protection. That's why the law exists, to prevent debts from becoming overly burdensome. That's why so many citizens can enter deep debts, because we have a forgiveness system that few other countries even have.

The reason why student-loan debt gets so much attention btw, is because student loan debt is the one and only debt that cannot be protected during bankruptcy-protection.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dude. No one said the US is worse than the Philippines. But the US is still not fine.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

This is literally a topic about poor, destabilized countries.

The Philippines is far more on-topic than USA here. Philippines in fact might be too rich / developing compared to many even worse-off countries.

[–] labbbb@thelemmy.club 1 points 8 months ago

Speaking about the police, I would also like to say that there is no police as such in developing countries.

I have never seen the police in the USA take bribes (and even if they did, it’s simply impossible to imagine, honestly, it would be funny, like in some cartoon, ahaha) and the police there, I think, really work ( True, I did not understand these subtleties).

What I also like is that any crazy suspects who try to injure other people (for example, mentally ill people) with a knife or a gun are simply shot, and they are not “coddled” with them, as happens in Europe and developing countries.

But on the other hand, there are some disadvantages: the police can shoot an innocent person, the less “criminalized” weapons are, the more shootings there will be (both among ordinary people and among police), the more power the police have (this also applies to the first point), more violence.

Also, it’s good if there are a lot of people in the country who are fine with mental health, but it seems to me that in the USA, unfortunately, they don’t attach much importance to mental health.

But in developing countries, for example, in Russia, it’s just terrible... what kind of mental health? What are you about? And what is it? Are you depressed? No, you're just lying...