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Prosecutors will seek the death penalty for the white supremacist who killed 10 Black people at a Buffalo supermarket.

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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Even a single innocent person getting murdered by the state makes the practice barbaric. The state is imperfect. It should not have a license to murder.

[–] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 37 points 6 months ago (3 children)

We're all in agreement, but as OP said, this
particular person isn't the time to make your stand on. We've all been vocally against the death penalty for a long time, but this specific person is not the one to make an especially strong "this is the line, no further" kind of stand for. I'm against him being killed like I'm against all cases of the government killing prisoners, but I'm also not doing any extra standing up for this particular person.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So you only stand by your views as long as it's convenient and easy?

I guess the right of attorneys is important but if the state violates his rights to that in this trial then you are not gonna have an issue with that either?

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He is standing by his views. Just not going out of his way to defend this person. Let’s see you go to the courtroom and protest this particular guy’s death penalty if you are so dedicated.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

If I lived there, I would. Not protesting this shows that you're actually okay with the death penalty, and your typical admonishment of it doesn't reflect your true beliefs.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Maybe alienating your allies is why the death penalty still exists

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

who's upvoting this coward bullshit?

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

People that understand strategy. Rosa Parks wasn't the first person to be arrested for violating the seat law, but she was unimpeachable as a person and made an effective figurehead.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 months ago

this particular person isn't the time to make your stand on.

Those of us who are vehemently against the death penalty tend to be vocal about it every time it comes up, not just when it's happening to awful people. It's important to make it clear that even in cases like this, the death penalty should not be a thing, because otherwise we tacitly agree that sometimes, the death penalty is a good thing.

This particular person is absolutely the time to make our stand against the death penalty, because if we don't, then we don't stand against it at all.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

Do you want judge Dredd instead?