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[–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

People throw around the word too much, there are actual Nazis around and we need to reserve the term just for their special brand of evil. Otherwise the phrase gets so watered down as to essentially become meaningless.

Otherwise they are just rightwing dipshits.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The rightwing dipshits are now mostly nazis though, the moderate and neutral have been mostly boiled off.

[–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can only base this on my own government but I'd say about only a small fraction of the right wing party are full on Nazi's, the rest are just awful people but they're not evil. Although it is hard to tell because quite a lot in the greedy, which from a distance can't look the same.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I want to upvote you for your rational take on nazis but downvote you for calling so many people awful.

[–] Lilith02@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Watering down language is part of the right wing platform. I think they actually want to be seen as nazis so the term is less powerful. On the other side, they are calling everyone groomers to water down that language as well.

[–] Strangle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve had people in this thread say that I advocate for genocide.

I don’t think the right are the ones watering down the language

[–] Lilith02@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe you should do more research instead of advocating for then.

[–] Strangle@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know what the word ‘genocide’ means. The left just misuses words all the time.

I don’t need to ‘do more research’

[–] Lilith02@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You definitely could do more research since you disagree with scientific consensus on trans issues and think you know better how it aught to be.

I didn't see anyone accuse you of genocide but from your other comments I wouldn't be surprised if you did and just didn't know it or tried to pretend you didn't because of a technicality.

[–] Strangle@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

I would have disagreed with lobotomies too, had I been around for that. I don’t really see the point you’re trying to make here.

There really isn’t any such thing as scientific consensus, not as it relates to truth. Science is ever evolving and asking questions, and re-answering old questions when we discover new information.

There is no ‘this is settled’ in science.

Well, you don’t know what genocide means. It’s okay

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sorry, this is the case on both sides. I'm a leftist, and I see it happen from my side all the time. Deflecting and claiming only Republicans do it is ignorant or blatant gaslighting.

I'm called a nazi sometimes from people in my own party. It 100% happens.

[–] jerdle_lemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Hell, "gaslighting" itself is a good example of this phenomenon, and it's mostly on the left.

[–] bloopinator@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know your political views are truly independent when both the left and right accuse you of siding with the enemy.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Independent.. you mean a dirty centrist?!?

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

The hate for anyone who weighs ideas no matter which team they're from is very transparent.

[–] Lilith02@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I'm all for saying both sides are bad, because they are, but I'm guessing you either did something to warrant being called a nazi or found a cringey liberal to argue with.

[–] markr@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are absolutely correct. Not all fascist are Nazis.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

Conservative =/= fascist

Change my mind