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It's insane the lengths that some people will go to save a few seconds on their commute, while also endangering others.

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[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry I didn't think I needed to spell it out that much to you. Obviously I don't think all poor people don't drive. But the poorest don't, and statistically poorer people drive a lot less and are more impacted by things like this.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?

Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't agree that speeding is ok if poor people do it, and I don't think the removal of the speed cameras is a step to the better alternative, unless it's part of removing cars from the road in question entirely.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say "Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all" ?

Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't replace it. Some people will still speed even with traffic calming so the camera is still useful.

If you want to reduce the council's income from speed cameras, the first thing would be to elect a central government that will properly fund local councils so they have the budget to make decisions like that.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You physically can't speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.

This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.

Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not a lib, I'm not a fan of Keith, and I'm not saying "fuck the poor". Poor people are the most impacted by car dependency which is perpetuated by dangerous driving. If you don't want to have this conversation anymore you can stop replying.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ay that's a surprise at least.

You're not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few, dunno about these specific ones though.

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because fuck pedestrians amirite lads

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you have not listened to a word i've said lmao

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Now you can see what it's like arguing with you.