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Why does that matter? If I burn 2000 calories a day, why does it matter if I burn them at a lower rate while asleep? I’m still going to burn more later, no?
Because you use less calories while you sleep, so excess calories are converted to fat...
And it's harder to burn calories of fat than use calories directly.
So eating late in the day leads to new fat forming. If you ate the same earlier, it would be used immediately for fuel
This is all incredibly basic stuff...
What's that supposed to mean exactly?
Your body loves fat.
It wants as much as possible.
To burn fat, you have to first use everything in your stomach, and then push through "the wall" where you keep exercising after your body says you need to quit.
Then your body will start the process to burn and use fat for energy.
So if you eat a lot at night and convert it to fat as you sleep. It's going to be harder to work off that fat than if you had ate earlier in the day.
This article mentions that one of the factors is that late at night you have fewer hormones suppressing appetite so you would potentially eat more. That makes sense as a reason you would gain weight. It does say that you burn fewer calories at that time too (which might mean you convert more of it to fat at that time, and if you don’t burn those excess calories later you’re going to be stuck with it…)
But I don’t understand what you’re saying. It almost certainly takes more energy to convert calories to fat and then back to usable energy for your body to use… So what? If you eat 2000 calories, turn some of it into fat, and then burn 2000 additional calories later (in addition to the energy spent converting it to fat) you’re technically going to be burning more calories than you’re eating and you will lose weight.
I’m sure there is an effect of when you eat and how that makes you store fat and how that can unintentionally cause you to consume more calories than you think… but what you’re saying doesn’t make sense to me thermodynamically.
Because you think a human body wants to be "healthy" ...
It doesn't, it wants to pack on all the fat it can to survive periods where food isn't plentiful.
We didn't evolve for unlimited cheap calories, our bodies still act like we're living in caves.
Seriously, this is all very very basic stuff, you'll learn a lot more reading about this then asking questions on social media and hoping you not only get the right answer, but explained in a way that makes sense.
BECAUSE THIS IS A HELL OF A LOT MORE COMPLICATED THAN CICO
Something I've been unable to explain in a way you can understand.
I doubt bolded all caps will help, but that's literally my last hailmary.
Go read some actual scientific texts if you want to learn more.
My point is just that if you’re expending as much energy as you consume you wouldn’t be able to pack on fat forever. That just doesn’t make sense because fat can be converted into energy, but you’re using energy up. I’m sure that the time that you eat can have an impact on 1) how much you eat, 2) whether and maybe where your body stores energy as fat, and 3) your metabolic rate which impacts how many calories you burn, and 4) maybe if you store energy as fat it’s harder to access and you wouldn’t feel as energetic or eager to burn it mentally, because as you say we’re kind of hard wired to want to be fat in case of famine. I’m not disputing any of that… But I don’t understand how eating after midnight would let you store more energy than you consume in the long term. If you actually eat 2000 calories and actually burn 2000 calories, where does the extra fat come from? I’m sure you can maybe trick your body into having a higher body fat percentage or something, but the calories and carbon atoms have to come from somewhere, no?
To be very clear, I’m not saying it’s easy to lose weight. It’s very hard for a lot of reasons: calorie counts are inaccurate, and knowing how many calories you’ve burned is extremely difficult, and all the while your body is going to fight you because it “wants” to be prepared to have no food (mentally you won’t want to do it, and my understanding is that your metabolism can slow down as well making it even harder to burn off extra calories)… But at the end of the day, if you actually intake 2000 calories and actually burn 2000 calories, I do not understand how you would be able to build up more fat. You would necessarily have breathed out all of the carbon you would need to build the extra fat molecules. Saying it’s “just calories in and calories out” is dismissive of how hard it is to lose weight and all of the factors that make it extra hard, but I do not see how you can gain fat if you actually manage to pull it off?