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It's insane the lengths that some people will go to save a few seconds on their commute, while also endangering others.

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[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Not really. Awareness of punishment does little to abate crime in general and while increasing the chances of getting caught (say by automatic cameras) does discourage crime in a meaningful way it does not prevent it.

Even so, the camera itself is not offering protection. It has no mechanism to control traffic or stop an accident.

I see this language far too often around cameras, but the fact remains they serve only to incriminate after the fact, not to prevent before the fact.

If you want protection, reduce lane sizes, make drives less straight, install speed tables, incentive alternate arterial routes, make sure alternate forms of transportation are effective and available. Hell, install the cameras even, but don't be dissolutioned that they are what is actually doing anything.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago

Speed cameras do work though. Here they are often used in specific places where people are driving too fast, especially if near schools and other places where it's extra dangerous.

For example close to where I live there is a steep hill with a road that goes straight down and after there is a completely straight road and then a really small bridge with a bump.

Some people like to speed down the hill and basically "jump" the bridge bump. Fortunately a speed camera was installed at the bridge and they warn about it well in advance.

While you could technically redesign the road, it would be very costly compared to a camera and that road is a very small road with low traffic and private farmland (or grazing land, I don't remember) on both sides.

Here the cameras aren't even activated all the time just enough to achieve their goal of reducing traffic.

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago

These are all better options, but that'll require closing the road for a while and more money to spend, which have been gambled on leaving the EU from my American understanding of modern British history. Speed cameras are much cheaper, will not require road closure, and there have been studies indicating a 22% effectiveness after installation.