this post was submitted on 04 Jan 2024
776 points (97.4% liked)
Technology
55940 readers
3451 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I'm all for hating Tesla, but if your vehicle is approved for Norwegian roads, and is the correct class, it should be able to be used in the driving test. Why should it matter how you signal, as long as you do it? You could even do hand signals if you wanted. (PS learn your countries' hand signals)
If you had read the article, you would know that this has nothing to do with your car. You can learn to drive whatever car you want in Norway.
Some Norwegian driving schools are making it policy not to buy Teslas as training vehicles because they use non-standard controls. They only want training vehicles that use standard controls, because that's the best way to teach a student.
This makes sense. If most cars have a stalk, teach students to drive that way, not with the weird car that's slowly transforming into an Xbox. If students own a Tesla, they can still learn to drive it, the driving schools are just unlikely to have that model in their lot.
Not even sure why an article was needed. No shit they're going to want cars with standard controls for driving schools.
The point of the article is to say "new Tesla indicator controls are bad and unsafe"
which they really aren't in the first place I've used it and never had a problem
That makes a lot more sense.
I made a similar decision in that my teen is not allowed to use my Tesla while learning to drive. Regardless if the turn signal controversy, Tesla controls are different. It’s easy enough for an experienced driver to pick up but I’m concerned about the opposite. If a new driver is used to everything happening automatically, they won’t have good habits for driving more typical vehicles.
But there shouldn’t be outrage: I expected to use the same logic to make them learn on a manual transmission. However those were always rare in US, modern CVT, paddle annd other electronic automatics make them less useful, and of course EVs have no need for a transmission.
My friend from West Coast when visiting us rented a Tesla for a week at a huge premium specifically because "that's what I know how to drive now".
We're doomed.
It would be weird if Tesla pushed the envelope on non-standard controls so much that it became the new stick vs automatic. Kids will be like I can't drive your car because I don't know how to use a brake pedal (one pedal driving) or park without the overhead 360 radar thingy. I had a similar thought when I rode with a friend who was so distracted by his phone while driving that he relied on the front collision warning to tell him when to look up from his phone.
Make them wear a buttplug, they'll forget how to pucker
the article says that it's more difficult to use this turn signal in the roundabout ( as the button is on the wheel so its position shifted along with the steering wheel, as opposed to the static position of the stalk ) and the driver has to shift a part of their attention to locate the button The person who found this also ask other instructors and they agreed, that's why they're not buying this model
but IMO if I'm an ownwer of a driving school looking to buy new cars for students, I'd pick more generic one too. Students would prefer to learn how to operate most cars than a specific model. Like how most music school would prefer normal guitar than double neck guitar
My kids’ driving school has cars without a backup cam. I don’t know if that’s intentional or just older cars, but I believe it’s a better choice to learn how to drive without that assistance
I taught my son in my father's Mustang instead of my (much) newer car. Yes traction control, but no shift indicator, no telling you what gear it thinks you should be in, no holding the brake on a hill, no automatic releasing of the parking brake, no lane keep assist and no backup camea.
Yeah, unfortunately all our cars are all wheel drive with traction control, antilock brakes and hill hold. All have backup cams, cross traffic warnings, and nothing that needs to be shifted while driving.
My teen’s first car will be my old Subaru, which is pretty well loaded , and difficult to lose traction with. I do wish I had something more basic for them to learn on. We’re supposed to get snow this weekend so hopefully I’ll be able to have them drive in slippery conditions
Hey potato...did you read the article ?