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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Any group that bends your mind into believing falsehoods and expects your loyalty is a Cult. No matter the religion, political party, etc.

[–] WFloyd@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Again, I'm curious. Personally, I have not found my loyalty as a Christian to be forced, it's of my own will. How can I ever prove (to myself or others) that it's of my own free will, and not being brainwashed? This applies to anything: religion, politics, sports, school affiliation, nationality.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So you have free will according to your belief system? You sure about that?

Then I guess God isn't all-knowing right? Because if he knew what you were going to do before you did it, then it wouldn't be "free will," would it?

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You are brain washed. Just not willing to admit it.

[–] WFloyd@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This doesn't answer the question though - how can anyone know or decide for others that they are not brainwashed? I trust you've come to your own conclusion, as I've come to my own. It's a poor excuse to call anything contrary to what I believe as being brainwashed unilaterally.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No point in debating with you about your being brain washed. You are and you're the only person that can come to self realize in order to break away from the insanity of religion.

[–] WFloyd@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

you're the only person that can come to self realize

But you just made that determination for me? I'm confused, am I supposed to make my own decisions, or listen to others?

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Religious people are brainwashed. That is a fact. No matter what I write back to you, you'll never agree. You need to wake up to reality on your own.

[–] WFloyd@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry we can't find at least some common ground on this - clearly we both feel strongly about our positions, and I respect that. Thanks for taking the time to discuss anyway.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

I'm sorry you're brainwashed. It's not your fault. Good luck escaping the false fantasy of religion.