North Korea began the Korean War by invading South Korea. It didn't end well for them (or for the South, for that matter) but South Korea prospers today while the North is...well, North Korea.

For Serbia, it is one of the many states formed from the dissolution of Yugoslavia. Going from one country to several countries which were defined mainly by ethnic association was not a clean transition. There were Serbs living in other former Yugoslav countries, and Serbia used that justification to start occupying those majority-Serbian areas, similar to what Russia has been doing with Ukraine, Transnistria, South Ossetia, and to a lesser extent Abkhazia.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

South Korea at the time was run by actual fascists, people often originally put in charge by the prior Japanese occupation who helped genocide their own people and kept by the "democratic" Allies because, being fascists, they really hated commies.

It's also simply disingenuous to pretend North Korea's economic problems aren't mostly caused by the embargo they've been under for seventy years.

Does that make North Korea the victim?

Well, not really, but on the other hand, you can certainly understand the invasion.

Unlike some people, they actually were invading fascists. Ones that actually were their people's oppressors, and even to this day most Koreans consider themselves a divided nation and support reunification, unlike Russia and Ukraine or Serbia and literally everyone else from the former Yugoslavia because the Serbs were dicks.

From that point of view it's certainly easier to understand why they would portray themselves as victims compared to people who just want to conquer and genocide their neighbors.

But time is funny, you become what you hate, etc.

Can't really say Marxist-> Feudal Monarchy is the typical trajectory though.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I don’t think South Korea was a fascist state…

But it certainly was a ruled by a nationalist right wing dictator.

My only source is slight knowledge on the Korean War and this: https://www.quora.com/Was-Syngman-Rhee-a-fascist

[–] seeking_perhaps@mander.xyz 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He pulled this type of shit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeju_uprising.

We're splitting hairs here but he was a US puppet that happily killed his opposition.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Oh absolutely, that’s without a doubt at all. I’m just doubting the “fascist” part.

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