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[–] Nova@citizensgaming.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That will never happen. We created capitalism and globalism. The genie is out of the box and it's not going back in... not until the planet is destoryed. Just try to enjoy what we have while it lasts.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Globalism is unraveling as we speak, and capitalism will die with it. No system lasts forever.

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't wait for the entire world to collapse like the soviet union did.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh wow, such an intelligent comment, because clearly no capitalist country has collapsed ever. 😂

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I never made that assertion but okay yes, there have been capitalist countries that have collapsed.. Also, can you name a communist country that hasn't collapsed?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Laos, China, Vietnam, and Cuba come to mind. It's kind of incredible that anyone would ask such an absurd question seriously.

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except... None of those are communist countries. They're all mixed economy countries with varying degrees of private and public corporate infrastructure. And China of all countries lmao. Theyre the most capitalist of that bunch. They only thing they kept from communism was the rampant authoratarianism. Its kind of increble that anyone would make such an absurd statement seriously.

Maybe you should actually learn what communism is before advocating for it.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

It's pretty hilarious that you're telling me to learn what communism is while evidently having the most superficial understanding possible. All these countries are led by communist parties, and the working class is the class that's in charge in these countries.

You are correct that these countries are in the socialist phase of development where many of the vestigial relations from capitalist society are still present. However, anybody who actually understands communist theory knows that this is a necessary stage. You can't just take a capitalist society and turn it communist overnight. Especially not in a world that's dominated by global capitalism.

Might want to read some Marx to educate yourself on the subject.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Communism and globalism are aligned. Capitalism has to go tho

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd call it internationalism instead of globalism. Globalism has connotations with capitalism and colonialism and not a term I'd want to associate with communism at this point.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just yesterday you commented the vomit emoji when someone posted the Taiwanese flag because you think they should be under the control of China rather than governing themselves. Sure sounds like you're pro colonialism to me.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure sounds like you don't understand what colonialism is to me.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand it quite well which is why I can identify when people like you are promoting it. If you had a rebuttal or explanation you would have stated it rather than resorting to a logical fallacy in your reply.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You keep saying that you do, but clearly you don't. Alternatively, you don't understand the history of the province, and the civil war in China. In either case, what you're saying is deeply ignorant.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another comment with zero substance.

You claiming that forcibly taking over control of another's land isn't "colonialism" is like saying "enhanced interrogation" isn't torture.

Funny how you can keep replying about what others "don't understand," but you can't put together an actual defense of your position. It's almost as if you know I'm 100% accurate, so you'd rather spin the discussion away from your indefensible position with insults and fallacies.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Taiwan is literally part of China as recognized by UN. The actual colonialism happening in Taiwan is what US has been doing there since WW2. I can't decide whether you're just woefully ignorant or just a liar.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this the same UN that recognized Palestinian territory as Israeli?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Imagine trying to paint parallels between Taiwan and Palestine. 🤦

[–] fedfedfedd@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The actual colonialism happening in Taiwan is what US has been doing there since WW2.

So the US is still colonizing Taiwan? How did they even "colonize" Taiwan?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go read up on some history and learn a bit about history of what US has been doing in Taiwan instead of making a 🤡 of yourself in public.

[–] fedfedfedd@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (33 children)
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[–] steltek@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol, imagine being this unhinged from reality. If your baseless dreams do come to pass and the system does fall apart, it will mean billions dead from famine, disease, and war. Your vision is death and destruction, not salvation.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

The least ignorant American has logged on.

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