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And if so, would they get more prison time / a larger fine?

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[–] Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com 93 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Think of a guilty/not guilty plea as the defense declaring their stance rather than literally saying "I did this" or "I did not do this". After all there are circumstances in which a person absolutely did the thing they're accused of but are not actually guilty (self defense) or extenuating circumstances need to be considered (insanity plea).

Perjury requires that a person lied under oath in a specific, provable way. That's why defense attorneys will sometimes have their client not take the stand or assert their fifth amendment rights in response to certain questions. Making the prosecution prove that the defendant did a thing is fine. Saying "I didn't do thing X at all" and then having evidence being presented that you did is no bueno.

TL;DR: A not guilty plea basically says "prove it". Perjury is lying about specifics and it can later be proved beyond a reasonable doubt that you lied about those details.

[–] dgmib@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Exactly.

Your choice is “Guilty” or “Not Guilty” not “Guilty” or “Innocent”.

(And for the pedantic out there yes, there are more things you can plead than just guilty or not guilty)

“Not guilty” doesn’t mean innocent, it just means you take the stance that prosecutors are unable to prove their version of events beyond reasonable doubt.

[–] NoneYa@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Besides “no contest”, what other pleas are there?

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Plus prosecutors don't want to hold a separate trial (because that is what is required to charge perjury) if they already proved what they wanted to.

They will (likely) only charge perjury if you fuck up a third party's trial or if your lies are provable and got you off the hook otherwise.