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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 70 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They basically all did it, some just got caught earlier. I said it back when they all hit on Volkswagen: It is not like that all the other companies have found the magic trick to get emissions miraculously down, and just VW was to stupid to find it somehow, and had to cheat. This time it's Cummins they caught. All you have to do is look closely, and you'll find that they cheat, because in reality, none of them have that magic trick.

[–] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

That's what diesel exhaust fluid is for, it reduces NOx emissions.

The VW engines were small and didn't have DEF, so everyone was like "how did you reduce NOx enough to meet U.S. EPA standards?" And VW was like "we're just super smart like that", which turned out to be bullshit.

Cummins knew better and had better emissions controls available, so this is full on stupid on their part.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

in reality, none of them have that magic trick.

Yes they do. It's called an electric motor. But that requires revitalizing infrastructure in order to accommodate fast charging across an urban landscape so utility trucks can top up whenever needed. And, of course, a company like Cummins being willing to make them.

But we can't get off that oil teat.

[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's called walking, better than any car. Having cars in major cities is so stupid. And before you say contractors need to have trucks, sure the do. But, I'm tired of companies sending out service vehicles to make almost 200 mile round trips, just so the competitor doesn't get the job.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

This is about utility vehicles, which are needed in cities even with robust transportation systems. Cargo still needs to be hauled the last mile.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Okay and everywhere else?

I'd love for cities to go full on mass transit. Even bringing in light freight to business areas so restaurants and the like could just use a handcart. But there's a lot of people and businesses in the US that will never cover.

[–] CabbageRelish@midwest.social 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Although these trucks are regularly bought just for vanity, they’re also the go-to trucks for cross country hauling. And regardless of infrastructure, current electric tech doesn’t do so hot there.

Although, part of their draw compared to others in their class was that they had the “best engines”…