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Apple wants AI to run directly on its hardware instead of in the cloud::iPhone maker wants to catch up to its rivals when it comes to AI.

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[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I am really jealous being an android user that Apple usually have this things running on their own devices with more privacy in mind. But I just can't accept the close garden Apple push.

[–] bonnetbee@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They do say that they have privacy in mind. And they are also collecting the same data of their users as Google. Don't be too jealous, they suck just as much as your next Android-Phone company. But with a higher price tag and a walled garden.

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They’re both bad, but Apple is clearly less bad about privacy than most big hardware or software companies by far.

[–] bonnetbee@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

How do you know? Because they promise?

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I would change to apple if it weren't for a few annoying bits, mostly to do with the walled garden. Like the appletv I have has a terrible input for typing unless you have an iPhone...so now I want neither.

[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I like to own my stuff and have control of it install install whatever I want.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Yeah but android is owned by an advertising company, all they want is data. Apple has a better system and less need to push for more data.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago

Apple is also an advertizing company, and walled garden ecosystem makes it harder to avoid its reach.

[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

But I can removed them instead Apple if they want to track you cant remove it from there. Even on their secure mode the DNS was reaching to Apple servers.

[–] bonnetbee@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Android is not owned by Google, but used and heavily supported by Google. It is open source, you can check how much data bare Android is collecting.

And 'all they want is data' is wrong, too, all they want is money. Same with Apple, all they want is money. And if they get more money by collecting user data to target more people to buy Apple products, they will do that.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

All they want is data because that is their model for how they make money. Android may not be outright owned by Google but it's development and funding without Google would be on a very different level. Yeah it is open source to an extent but the versions out by Google have their changes made, which goes across the vast majority of android devices.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm in the same boat, but it seems to be some things they're going to change in 2024. Namely, sideloading apps, actual Firefox with add-ons, and the ability to actually move app icons wherever I want on the home screen (not sure if that'll change ever).

They've already gone to USB-C, which was the main reason I never would have switched over.

[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Even with all those changes I wouldn't change.

[–] poshKibosh@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Sideloading’s possible and surprisingly easy on iOS even for non-technical folks, I use AltStore but I thinks there’s other options. Don’t know what I’d without uYou+ or TikTok LRD

[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Funny that you mention it, a few months ago when updating stuff I got a new feature on my Android phone... Offline subtitle generation based on audio, just realtime generated from anything outputing sound on my phone.

A Google search suggests this might be an older feature - not sure if my phone didn't support it, or if I maybe just missed it, or if they added a more obvious button.

Google has a separate app for that stuff, called Private Compute Services. Right now it's nothing like an offline Google assistant replacement, but I thought it's really nice to have that stuff available without relying on internet access.

[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

Did you try to turn off the internet to see if it actually works? That's pretty amazing thank you for sharing!