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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was carious and check death tool to put it in perspective.

From 2014 to 2021 there were estimated 14200 Ukranian death. 3404 of which were civilians.

Since October the estimation is about 13000 Palestinians (the majority of whom were women and children under the age of 14)

These are united nations numbers.

Disgusting...

[–] arirr@lemmy.kde.social 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The Donbass portion of the Russo-Ukrainian war had a fewer belligerents, a lot lower population density, and was fought between conventional combatants. It was also over 6 years.

The Israel-Hamas war has more belligerents, over 50x population density, is fought between a conventional army and an insurgency who has specifically said that safety of the population isn't their problem, and is being run a lot faster than 6 years. Reported death rates have already slowed down a lot.

Also according to the UN: https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14904.doc.htm 90% of war time casualties are civilians. The estimated 13k civilians killed in Gaza are weighed against an estimated 7k Hamas killed. That gives about a 2:1 ratio, much better than the global average.

War is always disgusting.

[–] blahsay@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Interesting stats thanks

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev -1 points 8 months ago

2:1 is not a better average, not even close. 2:1 is what WW2 had. WW1 had less (close to 1:1).