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[–] ExLisper@linux.community -5 points 8 months ago (12 children)

Yeah, I'm sure they can drive safely at 200km/h at a race track. There's no way to drive safely above the speed limit on a public road.

[–] Auk@kbin.social 13 points 8 months ago (8 children)

There’s no way to drive safely above the speed limit on a public road.

If you're driving a well maintained regular car in good conditions you absolutely can drive safely above many speed limits. If the speed limit was set at the true limit of safety nothing but the best handling vehicles in the best of conditions could drive at said limit safely, and this is clearly not the case for the vast majority of speed limits. Instead most traffic can travel safely at the set speed limit in less than ideal vehicles and in less than ideal conditions, so logically there are going to be situations where it would be safe to drive above said limit.

Consider too speed limit changes. In my area there have been a few roads recently which have been lowered from 100km/h limits to 80km/h. Nothing changed about these roads except the speed limit signs. Why was it possible to drive safely at the 100km/h limit one day but not possible to drive safely at the same speed on the next day? Another road several years back had its speed limit changed from 80km/h to 90km/h. Again only the signs changed, so why would it be unsafe to drive 90km/h there one day when that would be the speed limit the following day?

[–] ExLisper@linux.community -5 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I hate people like you on the roads. You're not the one who decides what's the safe maximum speed on the road is. If you think you can arbitrary decide that some speed limit is too low and you can drive faster you're wrong and shouldn't be on the road at all. If we had less people like you on the roads everyone would be safer.

[–] Auk@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

If speed limits are indeed set at the true safe maximum for all vehicles and all conditions then how can you travel safely at said speed limits in your car, which I would wager cannot corner as well or stop as quickly as a top end sports car?

[–] Quasari@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If it's a maximum limit to what's safe, you can say anything at or below it is safe. They don't set the maximum at a value that is unsafe for some vehicles.

[–] Auk@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

Indeed, at least for most modern speed limits. That was intended as more of a rhetorical question to lead the person I was replying to towards noticing speed limits are typically set with a wide safety margin, and not actually at the limit of what can be safe in good conditions.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not saying all speed limits are set perfectly. I'm saying it's not up to you to decide which ones are 'safe' to break. The driver that think they know better than everyone else are the most dangerous ones. Even if you think the limit is set tol low just follow it, ok? Is it so hard?

[–] Auk@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Say that to start off with then rather than "there's no way to drive safely above the speed limit on a public road", because there clearly are roads where it can be safe to drive above the speed limit.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community -1 points 8 months ago

Great, as long as we agree you should never drive above the speed limit I can agree that there definitely are some roads where the speed limit is set below the maximum safe speed.

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