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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

@o_o@programming.dev asked "why are folks so anti-capitalist?" not long ago. It got quite a few comments. But I noticed a trend: a lot of people there didn't agree on the definition of "capitalism".

And the lack of common definition was hobbling the entire discussion. So I wanted to ask a precursor question. One that needs to be asked before anybody can even start talking about whether capitalism is helpful or good or necessary.

Main Question

  • What is capitalism?
  • Since your answer above likely included the word "capital", what is capital?
  • And either,
    • A) How does capitalism empower people to own what they produce? or, (if you believe the opposite,)
    • B) How does capitalism strip people of their control over what they produce?

Bonus Questions (mix and match or take them all or ignore them altogether)

  1. Say you are an individual who sells something you create. Are you a capitalist?
  2. If you are the above person, can you exist in both capitalist society and one in which private property has been abolished?
  3. Say you create and sell some product regularly (as above), but have more orders than you can fulfill alone. Is there any way to expand your operation and meet demand without using capitalist methods (such as hiring wage workers or selling your recipes / process to local franchisees for a cut of their proceeds, etc)?
  4. Is the distinction between a worker cooperative and a more traditional business important? Why is the distinction important?
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[-] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 11 months ago

Capitalism is an economic system founded in private ownership of land, natural resouces, goods, services, etc.

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 7 points 11 months ago

That mostly predates capitalism, though.

[-] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago

According to us anti-capitalists it predates capitalism. According to a good number of people, the definition of capitalism is basically... anything involving money.

[-] arthur@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Money is not a problem. Money is just a tool to exchange value. Any socialist experience that I know use(d) currency. The difference is that not everything was up for sale.

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

I'm not an anticapitalist, though.

[-] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

Oh. My apologies.

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