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New York City’s congestion pricing program is moving forward with a $15 fee on passenger vehicles, reports Stephen Nessen in Gothamist, after the MTA board voted to approve it. The program now enters a 60-day public comment period before a final vote.

Nessen points out that “The stakes are high for the program. Congestion pricing has been successfully implemented in other countries. But the MTA’s program represents the first effort in the United States to impose a fee to reduce gridlock.” Additionally, “The tolls are required by law to back $15 billion worth of loans, which accounts for nearly a third of the MTA's 2020-2024 construction program.”

The program includes exemptions and fare discounts for low-income drivers, emergency vehicles, and drivers who already pay certain tolls. “Small trucks, buses and vans face a $24 charge during those hours, while large trucks, including big rigs, will have to pay $36. Motorcycles will be tolled a $7.50 daytime fee.” The fee is reduced by 75 percent during nighttime hours.

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[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Some morons like to gamble, most of us don't because of how low (aka zero) reward is vs risk.

But you'll always remember the people in life making the insane choices vs the regular folk.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I absolutely remember how many motorcycles lane spilt safely.

Zero.

And that’s before we talk about the crotch rockets that pass me going 90+ weaving in and out of traffic.

Your vehicle doesn’t make you special; wait in traffic like the rest of the motor vehicles on the road.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Your vehicle doesn’t make you special; wait in traffic like the rest of the motor vehicles on the road.

You’d be PISSED if you were in line at the grocery store with a full cart of groceries and someone with 5 items “filtered” around you without your consent because they’ll be faster.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Faulty logic appears to be a forte.

Why should I wait? Do you know what an air cooled engine is? I incur more risk in driving specifically for the benefits of agility and compactness.

I'm sorry that my ability to go past you makes you upset, but again, I'm exposing myself to significantly more danger specifically for the benefits including the ability to not be stopped by the car in front of me, much higher mpgs, lower cost of ownership, etc.

Do you get mad at bicycles because they don't operate the same as cars? I pass you in the bike lane all the time on my bicycle.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your vehicle doesn’t make you special; wait in traffic like the rest of the motor vehicles on the road.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No thanks! We're working on changing the laws to accommodate our less polluting, more fun, more efficient vehicles. Enjoy your traffic!

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your vehicle doesn’t make you special; wait in traffic like the rest of the motor vehicles on the road.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No thanks! We're working on changing the laws to accommodate our less polluting, more fun, more efficient vehicles. Enjoy your traffic!

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your vehicle doesn’t make you special; wait in traffic like the rest of the motor vehicles on the road.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No thanks! We're working on changing the laws to accommodate our less polluting, more fun, more efficient vehicles. Enjoy your traffic!

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Broken bones sure are fun when you get into an accident on your donorcycle.

Which you will, because you’re not following the laws.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

At least my life will have been more fun and interesting than yours 👍

Also: laws protect nobody until after the fact. Even in your car, you're expected to keep your wits about you.

Either way, I'm usually passing people at about 10mph faster than they are in slow traffic, about the speed of a bicycle. When someone wants to change lanes, crossing my path, plenty of time for me to slow down and let them do their thing. If I don't keep moving at least a little bit, my motorcycle will overheat as it is not water-cooled.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your vehicle doesn’t make you special; wait in traffic like the rest of the motor vehicles on the road.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No thanks! We're working on changing the laws to accommodate our less polluting, more fun, more efficient vehicles. Enjoy your traffic!

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your vehicle doesn’t make you special; wait in traffic like the rest of the motor vehicles on the road.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No thanks! We're working on changing the laws to accommodate our less polluting, more fun, more efficient vehicles. Enjoy your traffic!

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Your vehicle doesn’t make you special; wait in traffic like the rest of the motor vehicles on the road.

Enjoy your broken bones when someone sideswipes you for driving like a dick.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

What a nice person you are. I'd never wish something so terrible on you just because we disagree. Happy holidays.