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An outbreak of lead poisonings in children, tied to contaminated cinnamon applesauce pouches, illustrates the gaps in how heavy metals in foods are regulated.

Despite strong efforts to limit lead exposure from sources like paint and gasoline, the U.S. government doesn’t broadly limit lead levels in food, a blind spot that’s become all the more glaring, experts say, as cases of lead poisonings in young children linked to contaminated cinnamon applesauce continue to mount.

As of Tuesday, lead poisoning had been reported in at least 65 children, all younger than 6, who ate pouches of now-recalled cinnamon apple puree and cinnamon applesauce, up from 57 cases two weeks ago, according to the Food and Drug Administration.

Children under the age of 6 are most vulnerable to lead poisoning, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says. The heavy metal can lead to developmental problems, damage to the brain and nervous system, and problems with learning, behavior, hearing and speech. Lead exposure can lead to lower IQ and underperformance in school, according to the CDC.

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[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Lead is in soil and water. Stuff grown in that soil and water will contain some amount of it.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yep. The FDA advises people not to cook with hot water from the tap, for example, because of the risk of lead exposure. I don't think most people even know it's a problem.

[–] Kirca@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hi, non American here. How is the hot tap different to the cold tap?

[–] eclectic_electron@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago

Apparently the hot water leaches lead out of fittings and solder joints much faster than cold water does

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 7 months ago

Something about hot water dissolving lead from the pipes. We have a lot of lead pipes.

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago

Although true, that has nothing to do with high levels of lead in food products. It's a totally separate issue.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I didn’t know that was the reason until just now. I always assumed it was an energy saving tip

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but not enough to be recalled.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How much of your food is tested?

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Nah. High lead levels aren't a "super rare, could only be intentional" type occurrence. We just don't test that much until people get sick. Babies and toddlers get sick a whole lot faster than adults. You might be eating things with higher than acceptable amounts of lead and not realize for decades.

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Okay so I don't understand what you're arguing or why. Seems like you're saying there's high levels of lead in lots of food, but we don't know because we don't test... so how do you know if we don't test?

I'm saying that levels of lead found in the cinnamon applesauce probably don't occur just by chance, cuz they were so high they were causing symptoms in children which triggered a recall. That suggests there was more lead present than what naturally occurs. So where'd it come from? The FDA is pretty sure it's the cinnamon that came from Ecuador, so here are some possibilities:

  1. The cinnamon was grown in a lead mine or something and had extremely high lead levels. Kind of doubt that.

  2. Introduced during processing by machinery containing lead in its metal components. Possible.

  3. Deliberately added to the cinnamon to alter its color or increase its weight. Also possible.

I'm guessing it's either #2 or #3.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm arguing this premise is incorrect:

I'm saying that levels of lead found in the cinnamon applesauce probably don't occur just by chance, cuz they were so high they were causing symptoms in children which triggered a recall. That suggests there was more lead present than what naturally occurs.

And going all conspiracy theorist on this is irresponsible until FDA has a chance to investigate.

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you think I'm acting like a conspiracy theorist, then you're cognitively impaired or trolling. Stop eating lead laced food?

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you think theorizing that a conspiracy took place isn't a conspiracy theory? Unless you think just one person secretly added lead.

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

lol. Okay candybrie, I'm going to break down what could have happened, again.

  1. the cinnamon used in the applesauce was somehow grown in soil that contained a ridiculous amount of lead. No conspiracy, just human error.

  2. Equipment used in the processing of the cinnamon contained lead. That lead accidentally got into the processed cinnamon. No conspiracy, just human error.

  3. Lead was deliberately added to the cinnamon to either increase its weight or alter its color. That's a thing that happens. Possibly one person, maybe more were involved, but it's not what most people would consider a conspiracy. It's just people being lazy, unscrupulous, or greedy.

Don't take my word for it, here's a link to a peer reviewed paper measuring lead levels in spices:

Adulteration of spices can occur at any point along the supply chain due to the intentional or inadvertent addition of lead. Lead may be added as a coloring agent, or to add weight for products sold by weight, or it can be introduced because of poor processing equipment; the presence of lead in air, dust, or soil where food is grown or processed can also contribute toward contamination. In addition, poor regulatory controls in some countries can further impact the safety of food supplies.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A conspiracy is a two or more people agreeing to commit a crime and then committing that crime. That's all. It's not super deep. Number 3 sounds at very least to be fraud.

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago

So ummm, you should probably see this: https://lemmy.world/post/9621277