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[–] DragonAce@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Any company that obfuscates all their security practices, refuses to give statistics on security risks and counter measures, and boils their product security down to "Trust us, bro.", doesn't actually give a fuck about your security. They're just the last company who is still able to keeps everything secret so they can make shit up as they go along. Apple's security is a joke and they're just as bad as any other manufacturer on the market, the only difference is they have successfully kept their shit secret for all these years and spent decades convincing people they actually give a fuck about security.

I still remember a few years ago having a conversation with a coworker about her iphone and she bragged about Apple never being hacked and this was right after I had just got done reading an article about a large scale hack on their network. Of course Apple never said a damned thing about it, so I forwarded her the article. IIRC she mumbled something about how the article was probably not accurate. Apple fanatics do some crazy mental gymnastics to justify them spending thousands on a phone thats probably worth about $300 at best(their hardware is on average 1-2 generations behind other devices on the market).

Did you know that most celebrity phone hacks are thru apple accounts?

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

obfuscates all their security practices

https://help.apple.com/pdf/security/en_US/apple-platform-security-guide.pdf

https://support.apple.com/guide/security/advanced-data-protection-for-icloud-sec973254c5f/web

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/cloudkit/encrypting_user_data

I had just got done reading an article about a large scale hack on their network

Source? Or should I just "trust you bro"

Did you know that most celebrity phone hacks are thru apple accounts?

Did you know that most celebrities own iPhones by a far margin? These aren't the encryption was broken hacks when someone is getting into an iCloud account, these are social engineering hacks. That's what happens when your publicist, your agent, and others have access to your digital accounts so they can get you a new phone quick while you are on the road, grab the photos you took on your phone from your iCloud account to share, etc. More holes in security.

about $300 at best(their hardware is on average 1-2 generations behind other devices on the market)

Flagship android phones, barring a few exceptions, are not sold without pre-installed apps that subsidize the cost of the phone.

Do you have an example of a device priced at $300 with competitive hardware to the base iPhone 14, without bloatware subsidizing the cost of the device? I'd accept that generally iPhones are ~$100-200 above the price of devices with competitive hardware, but a current gen iPhone having $300 hardware? The specs are very similar to other devices in similar price ranges

I've owned both Pixels and iPhones before. While each has its pros and cons, I've found that the app sandboxing, default settings, and ability to opt out of telemetry was always better on iPhone. And until google has free, easy-to-use E2E encryption for Android devices and the related cloud services, customer data on Google's servers is more at risk to be stolen/sold for profit/used without explicit user consent.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have an example of a device priced at $300 with competitive hardware to the base iPhone 14, without bloatware subsidizing the cost of the device?

Ulefone Armor 21 😉

Perhaps is even better.

How long will that device get major updates? How about security updates? If I break the screen, how long does it take to get another one? What if liquid penetrates the device? Can I take it to a service center? If the service center doesn’t have the parts, will they give me a loaner device while mine is being repaired off-site? Can the off-site repair be done in under a week? How long is the warranty? Can I pay to extend it? What if I lose the device? Is there insurance for that?

That’s if we pretend for a moment that the MediaTek G99 isn’t a quarter of the speed of the A15.

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