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[–] zefiax@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Ok? And? They aren't a charity and don't owe you free video hosting services.

EDIT: I find it hilarious that point out the fact that you aren't entitled to free hosting services is getting down voted. Lmao how old are the people here?

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were already being paid and profitable, both from direct cash and ad revenue, but that doesn't ever seem to be enough.

[–] zefiax@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are free to disagree with their pricing and cancel a subscription if you have one. That's how the free market works.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Free market works" is by itself a very questionable statement.

But there sure are some more options beyond that. Although some people think we shouldn't be free to pick them.

[–] zefiax@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are free to pick w.e you want. That doesn't make someone actually paying for a decent platform a corporate shill.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Our definitions of "decent" are definitely different. But this is not just about what you choose to do, it's about all the fingerwagging people do at people who don't believe this is worth paying (even more) for.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No but I'm not going to pay Google for anything. It's obscene to give them even more money.

[–] zefiax@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whether you think that service is worth it or not is up to you.

But don't act like you have some moral high ground here and that people who are actually paying for a service that you are stealing from and a service that actually shares revenue with it's content creators and encourages independent creators are just corporate shills.

Some of us are adults and realize things cost money and not entitled children that expect everything for free.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And some of us are adults that don't have your innate need to wield your moral high ground like a smug pedantic asshole.

[–] zefiax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am not the one calling anyone who isn't pirating a corporate shill.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yet that's obivously not what this thread's context was before you started self-jerking to moral superiority.

Have some self awareness.

This isn't a Wendys Drive Thru.

[–] zefiax@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here, since you have difficulty following, let me copy where the original thread started.

The amount of downvotes on comments trying to help people not get price gouged and comments supporting these subscription price increases shows me just how many corporate shills are actually out there. No wonder these corps keep getting away with this bullshit.

I am not the one who started the moral superiority, I just disagreed at being called a "corporate shill" before a bunch of insecure assholes started losing their shit.

Maybe try having self awareness yourself before suggesting it to someone else.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Self inserting as a main character to claim you've been attacked so you can shill your moral superiority is the cherry on top of your bullshit sundae.

[–] Gork@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Dude they sell our data to advertisers and big data for profit. The least they can do is provide some services for us for the amount of analytics they collect from us on a daily basis.

Dude, they ARE the advertiser. That's Google's main business. They have no incentive to export ANY of your account data to 3rd parties. Business tell them what groups of people to advertise to, and their systems handle the rest. They're open about how it all works.

[–] zefiax@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone who's actually worked in this industry, your data isn't enough to pay for video hosting services to the scale youtube provides. Youtube makes up a significant chunk of all network traffic in the world. It costs money.

[–] ttr@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're a content creator, aren't you? 🤣

[–] zefiax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No i am not. But I am happy to support actual content creators and the platform that they host on and gets them the most views because I spend more time on YT than I do on any other streaming platform.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But I am happy to support actual content creators and the platform that they host on and gets them the most views

It's too bad youtube doesn't do that, lol.

[–] zefiax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I mean that is objectively not true.

[–] Shrek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They pay content creators more than any other platform to my understanding. I think the exception is kik (kick?) The streaming platform.

[–] xts@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Too bad you constantly have to be worried about dumb policy changes that can affect your older videos which can mean cutting off those revenue sources

Also I’ve never seen another platform that demonetizes content as much as YouTube does.

[–] Shrek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Both very fair points. But, there is no other platform that even compares for real.

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I don't owe them a subscription if I don't agree with the value they've placed on it. Free market, baby. 👍

[–] zefiax@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, absolutely, you don't. No one is claiming otherwise.

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seem oddly offended at the idea people wouldn't lol. I don't know why you're taking this so personally.

[–] zefiax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No I just think it's stupid to call people who would pay for a service a corporate shill. I have no issue with someone who doesn't think a subscription is worth it. Maybe read the whole thread first next time.