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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

ceasefire

Which Hamas broke on Oct 7, despite loosening restrictions on Gaza, then again on Nov 30.

blockade

Which Egypt and Israel instated with international support because Hamas even turns humanitarian aid into weapons.

Apartheid

Palestinian Israelis serve in every level of government and civic life.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There are 2M Palestinians living within the borders that Israel claims as it's own. There are 8M Israelis (that figure includes Palestinian Israelis). Palestinians would need to hold roughly 1/5 of all gov't positions in order for them to be anything other than a token minority. But they don't. In fact, it's not even close. The US, despite it's 200+ year racist and patriarchal history, has better representation of non-white and non-male people in Congress--as a proportion of the population--than Israel does.

[–] Lynthe@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What territories are you describing when you say "within the borders that Israel claims as it's own."

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The West Bank, which is occupied territory. E.g., it's not part of Israel under international law, but Israel claims it as its own.

[–] Lynthe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ty for clarifying, West Bank settlements are absolutely abhorrent, but I've seen too many people use the phrase claimed territory to refer to all of Israel. I appreciate the response and clarification

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

IMO, the 1947 UN borders are fairly reasonable, and Jerusalem should probably be administered by rotating 3rd parties (since there's no way that Israel and Palestine can realistically jointly govern Jerusalem due to how religiously charged it is).

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

In the USA, there are 3 African-American senators out of 100. There have been only 3 African American governors in history.

There are 9 ethnic minority members of French parliament out of 577, despite making up about 15% of the population.

Ethnic minorities represent 10% of the UK Parliament, despite being 16% of the population.

In Israel, there are 10 seats in the Knesset representing Arab/Palestinian parties out of 120.

Underrepresentation of minorities is a widespread global problem that is not limited to Israel. Pretending that the the rest of the world is some kind of post-racial utopia, while only Israel experiences racial inequality is cynical at best.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Look at state legislators, mayors, etc. Yeah, the US is gerrymandered to shit, and SCOTUS is gutting the civil rights and voting rights acts. But at least at a state level, non-white people have better representation. In my state, Republicans are currently fighting a federal court order to redraw voting districts because they under-represented black populations, but that city has a black mayor, and a majority black city council. Yeah, the US has a problem with racism. But the US doesn't send in the military to run Atlanta because they don't want black and Latino people to have a say in the government.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Israel broke the ceasefire by invading Al Aqsa before Oct 7 it was the direct reason for the attack.

Also israel refused to extend the ceasefire agreement and were probably the first party that threw bombs on 30 nov.

Lay off the IDF propaganda for a bit.