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Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: ‘We took steps to protect our users’ (www.theverge.com)

submitted 9 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: ‘We took steps to protect our users’::Beeper, like Sunbird and Texts, sought to find a way to bring iMessage to Android users. Its app, Beeper Mini, worked well. But a few days after it launched, Apple took steps to shut it down.

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[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What is your source on the second paragraph?

[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Don't have the article handy but I believe it was wired that reported on the decreasing contrast between the white text and green background across several iterations of iOS.

Edit: WSJ from 2018. I can't find a way behind the paywall. And Medium. Also from '18

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Those articles don’t say what you said though.

I’m asking for a source to your claims

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The latter article doesn't cite decreasing contrast ratios, but notes

[Apple's] guidelines state that you should strive for a minimum contrast ratio of 4.5:1 between the text and background colors. Apple’s white text in a blue bubble (iPhone messages) shows a 3.5:1 contrast ratio, while the white text in a green bubble (non-iPhone messages) manages only a 2.1:1 contrast ratio, less than half the recommended minimum contrast

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I saw that, but that doesn’t state what the other person is stating.

We can ascertain no intent but they assert one as malice which is why I pressed their claim.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you deduce that Apple did that by accident and never noticed?

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

With no evidence to tell me they did it deliberately I can’t deduce anything, I could jump to conclusions or make assumptions.

I’m not really in the business of that here though, someone made a claim and said there were articles about it then produced two articles which didn’t support their claims at all.

It’s a lot easier to believe they did something then just didn’t give two fucks about fixing it since the colors had become ubiquitous than to believe they deliberately did it to get back at people with a handicap to drive them to use their phones, especially when iMessage itself doesn’t follow the guideline.

Again, all I really care about in this thread is that someone who made bogus assertions about intent was unable to support it at all.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure, Apple never looked over this interface detail. I'm sure they just never noticed.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

See here you are just speaking your bias, did you not read what I said or is your intent to just twist my words so you can respond with your narrative?

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Okay, you're right. I'm going to go sit in the corner and pray. I'm sure Apple overlooked this detail because they're just not really aware of basic attributes of one of their most widely used apps.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

Again you keep deciding on intent when the easiest answer is “we chose this color and we don’t fucking care that it violated our standards because at this point we’re not changing it” which would explain why the iMessage colors also don’t meet their guidelines unless you’re implying that they are also harming iMessage users in the same way?