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[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I mean he’s not been convicted of anything yet. Only accused of rather common concerns of taxes owed. Nothing close to decades of fraud like trump. Yet it’s only in the headlines because republicans are desperate. I just don’t see Biden’s son being the white collar sacrificial lamb that matters.

Again why the “scandal”? At most his big unlawful behavior is a matter of owing money that can be paid. Meanwhile Jan 6… but yea everyone should be held to follow the law. So back taxes is where we draw the line?

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Only accused of rather common concerns of taxes owed.

I think you forgot illegally purchasing and possessing a firearm.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Cool, so the same shit that a second amendment right erases? Any reasons why republicans are so concerned?

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Any reasons this is a scandal? Any reason I should care about this beyond trying to overthrow democracy?

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I actually agree with you on the vast majority of what you're saying. In particular, how Trump's crimes are a grave threat to democracy in the US, whereas the allegations about Hunter Biden are basically harmless in the grand scheme of things (although, you didn't answer my question on whether Trump's New York business crimes are also basically harmless in your eyes.) And, I agree that at least to some degree Hunter Biden is being prosecuted specifically because of the Republicans wanting to weaponize law enforcement against their enemies.

But it sounds to me like you're wanting to go further than that, into using that all as a reason to make the factually untrue claim that Hunter isn't actually being accused of anything criminal (which, all the allegations could be false, but it's hard for me to see the DOJ under Biden claiming that he didn't file taxes for some year when he actually did, or otherwise go into the realm of the trivially disprovable just to harass him). And then when I list specific crimes, you start saying that allegations of those crimes are no big deal, because look at the Republicans!

Which is, of course, what the Republicans tend to do when their crimes are pointed out. In my opinion it's crooked and dishonest when they use that whataboutism, which is why I don't want to do the same for "my side". More to the point, Hunter Biden isn't "my side." Neither is Jared Kushner. They're both just mostly-private individuals who may or may not have done something wrong, and if they did something criminal and it can be proved in court, then they should be convicted. Why does it need to be more complicated than that? Why should anything on the Republican side mean that Hunter Biden gets a pass?

I feel like we're going in circles a little bit so we may have to agree to disagree. But that's how I see it, at least.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

I agree. And I’m not trying excuse anything Hunter is involved with. Just saying you and I could get accused of tax issues. They got Marcus Garvey on Mail Fraud. If republicans want a scandal they could just as easily point one your ways based on “taxes.“ Regardless it’s not really a scandal.