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When the cybertrunk was first announced I kinda liked it. I'm utilitarian and don't care what I drive looks like. The explanation I heard for the looks was because it was supposed to be really cheap to manufacture. So, a cheap ass EV pickup sounded pretty cool to me. Unfortunately, it's not going to be cheap :(
I wish they would make like generic vehicles. Like, basic shit. Give me that nokia brick vehicle that I can drive forever and is dead simple to work on.
You mean a Toyota Corolla?
Too bad it's gotten huge like every other car. I had an '86 Corolla and it was a good 25% smaller than the Corolla now. It was a really great car though.
Miatas are not much bigger.
I'm 100% with you though. Even mini coopers are bigger than sedans used to be.
Or nissan leaf, for electric, or Toyota prius phev, for phev
Unfortunately most of those are not dead simple to work on.
Only the best selling car ever :)
I didn't know that it beat out the Beetle. Neat!
Soviets did that, they had a few types of vehicles that were cheap to make and that ran forever. some likely still running now. Really great stuff. ( I'm not a tankie I just like Soviet history.)
You mean the one without a crumple zone that is deadly to any pedestrian?
I rather want one that is safe for humans than for the car itself.
The unibody is neither cheap nor easy to manufacture, and repairs are going to be a nightmare. The explanation is basically “Elron thought it looked cool”.
they are going to be totaled for stuff that's a few K to repair on other cars.
They will also never be street legal in the EU, that fucking front looks like it's designed to kill pedestrians, they couldn't have made a sharper edge if they put a knife there.
Utilitarian and pickup truck don't fit in the same philosophy imo
For a lot of people they do
Well, everybody can't be right all the time ¯\\_༼ᴼل͜ᴼ༽_/¯
They do. As someone who goes camping often and also takes care of a yard in America, I would never want to put mulch in a van. But let’s say I did, I couldn’t stack as much inside the van. A 4 wheeler doesn’t fit. It makes perfect sense for its use car just like every other object invented
Imagine driving everyday to work and not taking the trailer off the hitch because you need to get mulch two times a year and transport your bikes three times a year.
I need to own a school bus as a personal vehicle because sometimes we like to travel as a group of 12.
I load it into the bed of the truck, I don’t own a trailer. I’ve moved tvs, a piano, mattresses. These things don’t always fit in a covered location with a finite amount of space. Do you genuinely hate all pickup trucks?
I can’t move a piano with a sedan. I could maybe hitch a trailer and move mulch or do that thing where you pop the trunk and lash it down
Yeah I honestly hate all pickup trucks. I don't hate you, though. From what I know, in your country most sensible cars have a very low towing capacity on paper. And although they could tow a trailer with a piano in other countries, they're not allowed to in the US. So even for towing trailers, most people use pickup trucks, if I'm not mistaken.
In my country, I would tow a piano with a sedan, station wagon or a compact car. If I owned none of that but like a Ford fiesta or something small like that, I would hire a moving company for that one trip. It's still cheaper than maintaining a truck 365 days a year.
Fair enough. I can’t vouch for the legality, but you are not mistaken. I would rent a uhaul if I found it necessary to move a piano, but I’ve used the bed of my pickup an awful lot. Most recently to bring in the Christmas tree. But I do a LOT of work around my house so I know I’m in the minority here. But being from rural-ish America I find that there are people who have a stock pickup that they use frequently as a pickup.
Meh, fair enough. I drive a Leaf, but have an old F250 that I use at least a couple times a month. I'm either hauling firewood, mulch, compost, rock, lumber, flooring, siding, appliances, large tools, junk, etc (I live in an old house that needs a lot of work, heat solely with wood, and make furniture and garden as a hobby). Not sure I would want to tow much with my little Leaf. I guess could rent a pickup a couple times a month, but that would be pretty inconvenient.
Good point, owning it as a side vehicle like an old tractor makes more sense.
My gripe with pickup trucks is more when they appear in traffic, in parking lots sticking out at every corner, in too narrow streets, around children who they can't see cause they have their eyes 5 yards in the sky and a bonnet obstructing everything apart from the horizon, having a fuel economy and co2 emittance of a lorry without the contribution to our essential goods infrastructure.
Thanks Obama and the EPA. Bring back baby pickups!
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