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Or maybe they will launch Win 12 with optional TPM support.

Imho making the OS(es) TPM only cannot be good for their business, many people are still on Win 10 with no intention to switch, since their motheboard does not support TPM and do not want to upgrade PC / waste PCI-E slot on TPM extension.

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[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (4 children)

making the OS(es) TPM only cannot be good for their business, many people are still on Win 10 with no intention to switch

The switch from Win 10 to Win 11 costs nothing, so Microsoft doesn't care at all whether you keep using 10 until your PC dies.
The next one you buy will come with 11 preinstalled.

Microsoft doesn't care if you install Linux either.
You've already paid for the Windows license when you bought the PC.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago

You've already paid for the Windows license when you bought the PC.

Me scratching off the labels of old Win7 office computers at work

[–] FierySpectre@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

So don't pay for windows, get it unactivated and use MAS to activate it.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This assumes you bought a pre-made machine. Building your own won't have any OS you didn't install yourself.

[–] anlumo@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

That's such a tiny market that it's completely irrelevant to a company like Microsoft.

[–] ultra@feddit.ro 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But they can't track you as much on windows 10, and almost not at all on linux

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Telemetry data doesn't make the CEO rich.
Microsoft makes their money from cloud services for businesses, the desktop OS is a loss leader that's designed to get people to use the cloud services.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget office I think office is a big deal for schools. That an entire education area monopolized.

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Office is one of the cloud services.

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't know if it's still this way, but a decade and more ago (when I last had any professional contact with Microsoft's development) the company was effectively divided into two competing factions- the Office people and the Windows people. They had wildly different priorities for the shared tech stack, and mutually exclusive demands on the others' products, and there was a constant bun fight on who got their way. The surprising thing is, even by that era, the Office faction were the dominant one; that's where the real money was.

Then I gather the Azure faction was born and has completely dominated both, becoming a massive majority of the company's profitable business.

The gaming people (Xbox and whatnot) were always poor relations, if you're wondering, and MS R&D was its own eccentric little world which seemed to exist entirely outside of the universe inhabited by any of the others.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I guess most people still access the internet. Websites track you no matter what OS you use.

[–] ultra@feddit.ro 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Who in the name of God is running Linux with edge as their browser of choice.

[–] swab148@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago

Unfortunately it's the only way to use Gamepass on Linux, so even if it's not the browser of choice, some people do have it installed on their machines.