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    [–] Norgur@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The very evening I installed Linux for the first time (I think it was Ubuntu 12.04), my Wifi stick was the first major hurdle. I was a teenager, had no idea about package managers and such, but the drivers for my stick were only available in an uncompiled format, so I had to first learn what build utils and kernel dev packages were, download them and their dependencies onto the windows PC of my dad and copy them onto a CD.

    After I had figured all that out (took me.a while), I learned how to compile on the fly.

    After I had run ./configure and it finallyfinally ran through without error, the config script had this last line:

    Configure done successfully. Now type 'make' and pray

    Things have changed over the years, but they haven't changed enough.

    [–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Whenever I come across something I'd have to build myself, I just give up. No matter the instruction, there is always something wrong.

    [–] Norgur@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Compiling starts to work rather well once you've done it a few times. Especially when you get more used to understanding what ./configure tries to tell you. You should really try to get behind that, since you Linux will

    https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=E9Ftjm4FfMg6F2IU

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    [–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 year ago

    Allright. You've convinced me not to give up.

    And that Rick Roll song perfectly sums up how I personally think of Linux. I will not be giving it up. And I will not be saying goodbye.

    [–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    That is true on any LTS distro. Try rolling release, works without a glitch almost every time... well, at least on Void it does.

    [–] Norgur@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I read the previous comment and thought to myself "I bet there is some reply about LTS vs rolling release to this". I KNEW IT!

    [–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yep, been in the same boat 😂. Was an LTS fan for a long long time till I realized... this shit ain't worth it 😂.

    Everthing there is out there in 99% of the cases compiles against latest libraries. And well, LTS is just... lagging behind 🤷. So, you solve one lib dependcy and then, bam, another one pops up... OK, solved that one, bam, another one 😒... it just gets frustrating to compile stuff on LTS.

    And then you get all sorts of errors from the package manager cuz you did the unthinkable - install latest libs on an LTS distro.

    LTS is good for one thing only nowadays - servers.

    [–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 year ago

    Interesting. I did not know about that. I'll be sure to give rolling a try then.

    [–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    This has to be the best script message I've ever seen 😂.

    [–] Norgur@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

    Netgear WiFi USB drivers. Weren't good for much, but this one message was true as fuck!