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[โ€“] java@beehaw.org 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

When a poll shows that Russians support the war, people are saying that Russians are bad. But when a poll shows that Russians don't support the war, people are questioning the poll.

[โ€“] shasta@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

The responsible thing to do is question everything because there is so much propaganda and advertisement everywhere

[โ€“] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

This is because if you watch the war closely, you'll see that russkies are supporting the war. It started with ~140k troops. Now, after losing about 150k to 300k, there are 400k troops. And there's no active draft, too much of them are ~~collectors~~ contractors volunteered to go and kill Ukrainians.

[โ€“] java@beehaw.org 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The biggest mystery to me is why people with knowledge barely above zero are talking on the internet like they're experts.

[โ€“] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah exactly, why would you?

[โ€“] IAmWiking@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They volunteered because the monthly salary is more than most Russians earn in a year, especially in Southern/Eastern regions with no opportunities. Most sign up for the money, nothing more or less.

[โ€“] muelltonne@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's a totally valid reason for invading another country and committing war crimes. Where can I sign up?

[โ€“] IAmWiking@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago

Not saying it's valid or that we should excuse it etc. Simply pointing out that the fact that the majority of Russian soldiers currently in Ukraine are volunteers doesn't necessarily mean they're all hyper-nationalists who love the war

[โ€“] Freylint@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Well first you've gotta let neoliberals take power. Give that a couple decades to slide into fascism, then wages will plunge as corporate interests gain total control of the government. Wait a few more decades for these policies to come to bear. Only then can you take a slice of the pie of the overinflated budget of the imperial apparatus.