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I am building a NAS in RAID 1 (Mirror) mode. Should I buy 2 of the same drive from the same manufacturer? or does it not matter so much?

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[–] vegivamp@feddit.nl 47 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Quite the opposite. Use drives from as many different manufacturers as you can, especially when buying them at the same time. You want to avoid similar lifecycles and similar potential fabrication defects as much as possible, because those things increase the likelihood that they will fall close to each other - particularly with the stress of rebuilding the first one that failed.

[–] duncesplayed@lemmy.one 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

To the best of my knowledge, this "drives from the same batch fail at around the same time" folk wisdom has never been demonstrated in statistical studies. But, I mean, mixing drive models is certainly not going to do any harm.

[–] Hopfgeist@feddit.de 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

mixing drive models is certainly not going to do any harm

It may, performance-wise, but usually not enough to matter for a small self-hosting servers.

[–] TheWoozy@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I wouldn't mix 5400 rpm drives with 7200 rpm drives, but if the rpm & sizes are the same, there won't be any measurable performance loss.

[–] Overspark@feddit.nl 7 points 9 months ago

If everything went fine during production you're probably right. But there have definitely been batches of hard disks with production flaws which caused all drives from that batch to fail in a similar way.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I know it's only what I've experienced but I've been on a 2 weeks of hell from emc drives failing at the same time because dell didn't change up serials. Had 20 raid drives all start failing within a few days of each other and all were consecutive serials.

[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If I had a dollar for every time rebuilding a RAID array after one failed drive caused a second drive failure in the array in less than 24 hours.... I'd probably buy groceries for a week.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

When using drives from the same model and batch?

[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 3 points 9 months ago

Yup. Same age, same design, same failures... and array rebuilds are super intense workloads that often force a lot of random reads and run the drive at 100% load for many hours.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've heard just in general. The resilvering process is hard on all the remaining drives for an extended period of time.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying I should be running RAIDz2 instead of RAIDz1? You're probably right. 😂

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I made that switch a few years ago for that reason.

That said, as the saying goes, RAID is not a backup, it should never be the thing that stands between you having and losing all your data. RAID is effectively just one really dependable hard drive, but it's still a single point of failure.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So you're saying I should be running JBOD with backups instead of RAIDz1? You're probably right. 🤭

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

As long as you're ok with it being way less dependable, and having to rebuild it from scratch more often 😉.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

I don't know if you're talking about the sample of cases you've personally witnessed, or the population of all NASes in the world. If the former, that sounds significant. If the latter, it sounds like it's probably not something to worry about.